Potus ???

[tree-fancier123]

1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

Where is this Hamas homeland you speak of ?? 

If your asking me that because you genuinely don't know - both sides lay claim to Temple Mount, those critters have been scrapping and shitting out there for thousands of years

[Johnsond]

3 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

If your asking me that because you genuinely don't know - both sides lay claim to Temple Mount, those critters have been scrapping and shitting out there for thousands of years

🤷‍♂️👍🤔Exactly 

You answered any questions that could possibly be asked. 
Apologies I was being sarcastic in the previous post, not in a bad way you  understand. A no win topic. I’m out of this one. 

Edited Saturday at 19:12 by Johnsond

[sime42]

 

26.9 : 1

 

 

 

[Big J]

I think you can legitimately be against both Hamas and the Israeli state. Both have engaged in truly barbaric acts of cruelty. The difference, I'd argue is that in the instance of this latest episode that for Hamas it was a single day, and for Israel is has been 16 months and counting, as well as almost 50 times as many dead.

 

My understanding of the situation is reasonable, but by no means scholarly or in great depth. For me, the fundamental injustice is that since the inception of Israel, it has been an inherently racist and exclusionary state. It offers citizenship to any Jew of any nation, but not the Palestinians who have called that part of the world their home for thousands of years. 

 

Terrorist Zionist actions have occured since the 1920s, and the with the 1948 Nakba, Jewish settlers asserted themselves by force, making refugees of over half a million Palestinians. 

 

In the intervening 80 years, successive Israeli governments have worked to great effect the lingering Western guilt over WW2 to obtain unconditional support (increasingly now only from the US) both in terms of material goods and poltiical will. 

 

In that time, Palestinians have seen what few rights they've had stripped, what little land they owned stolen and the future of ahead of them darkened. 

 

I make no defense of the actions of Hamas. They are evil. But you have to understand that systemic and systematic oppression of a population over multiple generations will do nothing other than breed extremism. As a young man, growing up in Gaza with a bleak future, living at the behest of your Israeli neighbours, you will do whatever you can to resist. 

Now that Israel has killed almost 3% of Gaza's population, injured a further 4.5%, every person in Gaza will have lost loved ones. Every family will have been affected. More than 70% of all buildings are destroyed or severely damaged. This atrocity, this genocide will haunt Israel for generations. 

 

So Trump suggests that he should take ownership of Gaza. Clear them all out, he says. Literally the textbook definition of ethnic cleansing......

 

I think it's fairly clear now that international law is going to have little effect on the situation in the Middle East. The powerful will exert their might on the vulnerable and the world will be all the worse for it.

[Johnsond]

12 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

In the intervening 80 years, successive Israeli governments have worked to great effect the lingering Western guilt over WW2 to obtain unconditional support (increasingly now only from the US) both in terms of material goods and poltiical will. 

FFS J 6 million men women and children exterminated at the hand of the German/Nazi state  is gonna leave a legacy in the mind of any people let alone a nation surrounded by nations who have made no effort to hide the fact that the extermination of the Israeli state is the end goal. 

 

18 minutes ago, Big J said:

The difference, I'd argue is that in the instance of this latest episode that for Hamas it was a single day, and for Israel is has been 16 months and counting, as well as almost 50 times as many dead

As I’ve stated before don’t start a fight then cry when you are getting a kicking. 

[Mesterh]

2 hours ago, Johnsond said:

You know they didn’t, even if they had it wouldn’t have been enough would it. That was a threat to get the ball rolling again, it worked and 3 more people are now tasting freedom, hopefully the rest will not be far behind. Love Trump or Hate him but you can’t deny he gets results, not always text book methodology but his latest rocket up the arse of the soft shite spongers in NATO who with a few exceptions have reduced their armed forces to a shadow of what they should be will hopefully have the right effects. 

The message was, release all the hostages by Saturday or all hell will break loose. It looks like that message/threat didnt get through at all. Its Saturday, they are still holding hostages and all hell hasnt broken loose yet. They knew it was an empty threat, he just looks weak like always.

 

He gets results,reaaly. Ukraine war stopped on day 1, fuel and food prices down on day 1, Tariffs on everyone, ok no tariffs on anyone, 25% tariffs on steel, ok no 25% tariffs on steel, tariffs on those who tariff us, well we will see about that one. It looks to me that he is empowering Putin, way to go Trump, that should make NATO have to up their game for no bleedin reason except to buy more arms from the US.

He's made a load of money with his meme coin, sacked a load of people and stopped aid and funding to the poorest of people, so yeah maybe your right, maybe he does get results.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Big J]

36 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

FFS J 6 million men women and children exterminated at the hand of the German/Nazi state  is gonna leave a legacy in the mind of any people let alone a nation surrounded by nations who have made no effort to hide the fact that the extermination of the Israeli state is the end goal. 

 

As I’ve stated before don’t start a fight then cry when you are getting a kicking. 

 

It shouldn't need to be stated that the actions of the Nazis in WW2 were utterly evil. But it's irrefutable that the collective guilt of the West has been exploited by Zionists forever conflating what happened 80 years ago with the situation today. Sadly, and ironically, the strongest common thread between the Holocaust and Israel in 2025 is that the Zionists are treating the Palestinians as the Nazis treated the Jews in the 30s and 40s. 

 

Israel is a state that is founded on the very notion of religious and ethnic purity. A similar ideal underpinned the Third Reich. The expansionist agenda of Israel (Golan Heights, West Bank, clearing Gaza etc) find much commonality with the policy of expanding Germany to allow for Lebensraum. The Israeli policy of unequal human rights depending on ethnicity and religion isn't a million miles from the Nazi concept of the Untermensch. 

 

I am not equating Nazi Germany and Israel in terms of scale or global impact, but I defy anyone to look at the state of Gaza now and say that it isn't a concerted and determined effort on the part of Israel to make Gaza unliveable. It's industrial war and the industrial clearance of a people.

 

And please remember that Hamas terrorists commited the atrocities of Oct 7th. Not the Palestinian people, who have been subject to brutal collective punishment. 

[Johnsond]

29 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

The message was, release all the hostages by Saturday or all hell will break loose. It looks like that message/threat didnt get through at all. Its Saturday, they are still holding hostages and all hell hasnt broken loose yet. They knew it was an empty threat, he just looks weak like always.

 

He gets results,reaaly. Ukraine war stopped on day 1, fuel and food prices down on day 1, Tariffs on everyone, ok no tariffs on anyone, 25% tariffs on steel, ok no 25% tariffs on steel, tariffs on those who tariff us, well we will see about that one. It looks to me that he is empowering Putin, way to go Trump, that should make NATO have to up their game for no bleedin reason except to buy more arms from the US.

He's made a load of money with his meme coin, sacked a load of people and stopped aid and funding to the poorest of people, so yeah maybe your right, maybe he does get results.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In your opinion 😂😂You and a few others on here are absolutely incapable of having a rational conversation in regards Trump in any way shape or form. In regards NATO members spending more money, 100% it’s long overdue. I think he told a meeting a few years ago exactly the same thing and might have mentioned Germany and its reliance on Russian gas, if I recall he was laughed at by the  arrogant individuals present. It would seem the president of a country currently fighting for its survival in the real world would disagree with you. 
 

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Edited Saturday at 20:52 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

17 minutes ago, Big J said:

And please remember that Hamas terrorists commited the atrocities of Oct 7th. Not the Palestinian people, who have been subject to brutal collective punishment. 

There lies the tragedy J as was the case in Germany 🤷‍♂️sadly it’s the way it always is. 

[Big J]

7 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

There lies the tragedy J as was the case in Germany 🤷‍♂️sadly it’s the way it always is. 

 

Absolutely. The firebombing of Hamburg and the flattening of Dresden sadly spring to mind. 

 

With the powerful that lead our countries, the best you can hope for is that they are benevolent c**ts. If you get a malevolent one, you're in trouble 😔