Potus ???

[tree-fancier123]

what got me about WW2 is when they say unconditional surrender or whatever - if I was in charge I would have wanted the land we fought for - a slice of Germany forever. Let the other allies keep a slice each and the German language would have to become illegal. That was the proper way all through history

[Johnsond]

39 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Been busy last couple of days (probably spreadsheets and stuff like that). His Greenland thing is another - and getting more frequent "WTF" moment. He cannot invade because he would be kicked out of NATO, a good chance that would mean the US would also struggle to maintain bases in NATO countries... which threatens US security world wide. Which is why he is going for $700 billion estimation to buy it.

 

The cynic might think that a Venezuelan won the Nobel Peace Prize, the Peace prize people are Norwegians and these are the 2 countries he is thinking of attacking...

 

However it is nothing at all to do with security - as far as I can tell there is no escalating threat from Russia to the US, a long way for China to sail, and any missiles from either over Greenland would currently be intercepted. All to do with the climate change he doesn't believe in, melting the ice so Greenlands minerals can be exploited. The riches are worth far more than the 700 billion he wants to buy it with. And the Peace Prize.

😂😂😂Ambiguity SP/TA you couldn’t lie straight in bed wee man. 
That is your high level strategic view of the situation I gather. 
 Venezuela 🇻🇪 and Norway 

🇳🇴 !!!!!! ?????? 

 

[Josey Wales]

tree-fancier123 straight out of the blocks with a contentious take. 'A slice of Germany forever....'

That would have made us no better than that which we fought against. As it was, Stalin did indeed keep what he fought for and Poland ('the country on wheels'), the Baltic States and Ukraine fell under the Iron Curtain, with parts of Germany becoming Poland and parts of Poland becoming Ukraine. The 'orderly and humane' displacement of peoples that followed was anything but, and as we celebrated VE Day Europe was plunged into further bloodshed and turmoil as old scores were settled. The conflict between Poland and Ukraine was particularly brutal.

[tree-fancier123]

34 minutes ago, Josey Wales said:

tree-fancier123 straight out of the blocks with a contentious take. 'A slice of Germany forever....'

That would have made us no better than that which we fought against.

you are right - wish I'd commented instead on the cow that picked up a deck scrubber, clamped it in its jaws and itched her back with it. First reported tool use by bovine. Who knows in a few million years the cows may be ready to rise up against us.

[Squaredy]

1 hour ago, tree-fancier123 said:

what got me about WW2 is when they say unconditional surrender or whatever - if I was in charge I would have wanted the land we fought for - a slice of Germany forever. Let the other allies keep a slice each and the German language would have to become illegal. That was the proper way all through history

I know you have already been corrected on this but it might be worth reading up on the causes of World War 2.  To an extent it was down to Germany being punished severely and stripped of much of their land in the Treaty of Versailles.  

 

The USA came up with a list of fourteen principles that were meant to be enshrined in the treaty and how the defeated Germany were to be treated.  Every single one was broken by the allies.

[Stubby]

2 hours ago, Josey Wales said:

We should start a History thread maybe...

 

How about 'Making the news today in.....(choose your year) ' ?

e.g,  on this date, the 20th January in 1945 the fourth inauguration was held of President Roosevelt.

It'll either be the most learned and courteous thread on Arbtalk, or if someone picks a contentious subject more in keeping with 'Making the news today' and 'Potus'. 

 

On this day in 1953 I was borne . 

Edited 2 hours ago by Stubby

[Peter 1955]

11 minutes ago, Stubby said:

On this day in 1953 I was borne . 

aloft? Sorry, Pavlovian reaction to a typo. Just call me picky. 

[Stubby]

12 minutes ago, Peter 1955 said:

aloft? Sorry, Pavlovian reaction to a typo. Just call me picky. 

Sorry . My Mum gave birth .

[Josey Wales]

Now that was an historic day....Happy Birthday Stubby!

[Mark J]

15 minutes ago, Stubby said:

On this day in 1953 I was borne . 

Happy birthday!