Potus ???

[sime42]

12 hours ago, Steven P said:

So it is pretty much confirmed that the Iranians moved their stash of Uranium not long after Trump went on the social media to tell the world he's be dealing with Iran. So much for a surprise attack when you have said you'd be attacking. They are also saying that their facilities are damaged but not out of action long term - I'd go with that given that those around Trump favour the 'emperors new clothes' policies around him, tell him what he wants to hear and not how it is.

 

 

I think the "secret" US attacks have probably served to convince Iran, (or more accurately the Ayatollahs), that the only way to protect themselves from Israel is to develop their own nuclear weapons. There's a good chance that they're now beavering away, redoubling their efforts to further enrich their stash of Uranium, that is now secretly stashed somewhere even safer. Talk about unintended consequences.

 

This doesn't bode well: 
 

Iranian lawmakers vote to suspend cooperation with UN nuclear watchdog

WWW.FRANCE24.COM

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Iranian lawmakers on Wednesday voted to suspend its collaboration with the International Atomic Energy Agency...

 

 

Turns out that Toddler Geopolitics, played out on social media doesn't quite work

 

[Johnsond]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

The average Iranian would be happy to see the back of the current regime. It wouldn’t matter how it was done. Seems it’s actions to its own people are brushed aside by a few here suffering from TDS

[Mark J]

18 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂

The average Iranian would be happy to see the back of the current regime. It wouldn’t matter how it was done. Seems it’s actions to its own people are brushed aside by a few here suffering from TDS

Who has supported that regime, Dave?

Overview of the Iran-Contra Affair

The Iran-Contra affair was a major U.S. political scandal during the Reagan administration in the 1980s, involving secret and illegal government operations that connected two seemingly unrelated foreign policy crises: the sale of arms to Iran and the funding of Contra rebels in Nicaragua1246.

The Two Main Components

1. Arms Sales to Iran

• The U.S. secretly sold weapons to Iran, despite an arms embargo and the country's designation as a state sponsor of terrorism156.

• The official justification was to secure the release of American hostages held by Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed group in Lebanon125.

• The arms sales were facilitated through intermediaries, including Israel, and were not authorized by Congress15.

2. Funding the Contras in Nicaragua

• In Nicaragua, the leftist Sandinista government had come to power in 1979, alarming the Reagan administration, which feared the spread of communism in Central America246.

• The U.S. Congress passed the Boland Amendments (1982-1984), which prohibited direct or indirect U.S. military aid to the Contra rebels fighting the Sandinistas1245.

• Despite the ban, officials in the Reagan administration diverted proceeds from the Iran arms sales to fund the Contras, circumventing Congress1456.

Key Figures

 

 

Mugshot of Oliver L. North, DOB 10 7 43 wikipedia

• Ronald Reagan: U.S. President, whose administration orchestrated the covert operations1256.

• Oliver North: National Security Council aide, central in managing the secret operations and later became the public face of the scandal56.

• William Casey: CIA Director, instrumental in developing the plan56.

• John Poindexter and Bud McFarlane: National Security Advisors involved in authorizing and overseeing the operations56.

Exposure and Aftermath

 

 

President Reagan received the Tower Commission Report in the White House Cabinet Room in 1987, with John Tower and Edmund Muskie wikipedia

• The scandal broke publicly in November 1986 when a Lebanese newspaper revealed the arms-for-hostages deal56.

• Subsequent investigations, including the Tower Commission and Congressional hearings, uncovered the full extent of the illegal activities and led to indictments and convictions for several key officials56.

• President Reagan’s administration faced severe criticism, a decline in public approval, and lasting questions about executive power and accountability6.

Significance

The Iran-Contra affair highlighted:

• The dangers of secret government operations that bypass legal and democratic oversight.

• The tension between the executive and legislative branches over foreign policy.

• The willingness of officials to violate both domestic and international law in pursuit of policy goals1246.

The scandal remains one of the most serious breaches of U.S. law and trust in presidential history, with long-term impacts on American politics and foreign policy6.

Edited yesterday at 21:12 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

8 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Who has supported that regime, Dave?

Overview of the Iran-Contra Affair

The Iran-Contra affair was a major U.S. political scandal during the Reagan administration in the 1980s, involving secret and illegal government operations that connected two seemingly unrelated foreign policy crises: the sale of arms to Iran and the funding of Contra rebels in Nicaragua1246.

The Two Main Components

1. Arms Sales to Iran

• The U.S. secretly sold weapons to Iran, despite an arms embargo and the country's designation as a state sponsor of terrorism156.

• The official justification was to secure the release of American hostages held by Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed group in Lebanon125.

• The arms sales were facilitated through intermediaries, including Israel, and were not authorized by Congress15.

2. Funding the Contras in Nicaragua

• In Nicaragua, the leftist Sandinista government had come to power in 1979, alarming the Reagan administration, which feared the spread of communism in Central America246.

• The U.S. Congress passed the Boland Amendments (1982-1984), which prohibited direct or indirect U.S. military aid to the Contra rebels fighting the Sandinistas1245.

• Despite the ban, officials in the Reagan administration diverted proceeds from the Iran arms sales to fund the Contras, circumventing Congress1456.

Key Figures

 

 

Mugshot of Oliver L. North, DOB 10 7 43 wikipedia

• Ronald Reagan: U.S. President, whose administration orchestrated the covert operations1256.

• Oliver North: National Security Council aide, central in managing the secret operations and later became the public face of the scandal56.

• William Casey: CIA Director, instrumental in developing the plan56.

• John Poindexter and Bud McFarlane: National Security Advisors involved in authorizing and overseeing the operations56.

Exposure and Aftermath

 

 

President Reagan received the Tower Commission Report in the White House Cabinet Room in 1987, with John Tower and Edmund Muskie wikipedia

• The scandal broke publicly in November 1986 when a Lebanese newspaper revealed the arms-for-hostages deal56.

• Subsequent investigations, including the Tower Commission and Congressional hearings, uncovered the full extent of the illegal activities and led to indictments and convictions for several key officials56.

• President Reagan’s administration faced severe criticism, a decline in public approval, and lasting questions about executive power and accountability6.

Significance

The Iran-Contra affair highlighted:

• The dangers of secret government operations that bypass legal and democratic oversight.

• The tension between the executive and legislative branches over foreign policy.

• The willingness of officials to violate both domestic and international law in pursuit of policy goals1246.

The scandal remains one of the most serious breaches of U.S. law and trust in presidential history, with long-term impacts on American politics and foreign policy6.

Ah the 80s I remember it “vaguely “ 

[sime42]

 

 

At least he's honest. 

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

 

At least he's honest. 

Always the best policy 42. 

[Johnsond]

5 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

 

I think the "secret" US attacks have probably served to convince Iran, (or more accurately the Ayatollahs), that the only way to protect themselves from Israel is to develop their own nuclear weapons. There's a good chance that they're now beavering away, redoubling their efforts to further enrich their stash of Uranium, that is now secretly stashed somewhere even safer. Talk about unintended consequences.

 

This doesn't bode well: 
 

Iranian lawmakers vote to suspend cooperation with UN nuclear watchdog

WWW.FRANCE24.COM

---

Iranian lawmakers on Wednesday voted to suspend its collaboration with the International Atomic Energy Agency...

 

 

Turns out that Toddler Geopolitics, played out on social media doesn't quite work

 

 

[Stubby]

4 hours ago, Johnsond said:

 

Not taking sides here but if the Americans had missed their target somewhat and I was  Iran's foreign minister I would be saying that .   

Edited 18 hours ago by Stubby

[Bolt]

I bet there’s some WMD out there, if anyone cared to look.

[Haironyourchest]

The important thing is everyone "saved face"...😐