Couple of years ago we landed a job doing a couple of large removals for a property developer. Big Victorian house, nice part of town, very big front garden, so the trees were coming down and a big drive, some hard landscaping and nice gates going in etc.. plus a big refurb on the house. This was to be the first of many (well paid) jobs with this developer, well respected and doing legit quality work. (No ringbarking) When I first saw the trees, a large mature beech and 2 large silver birch I was surprised that there were no TPO’s on them. The developer showed us the architects report and the planning permission and I also double checked with the council who were very evasive on the phone about whether there were TPO’s or not. We finally established there weren’t. We were just about to start work when a neighbour comes out and starts arguing with us about why we are about to remove the trees, then a guy from the planning dept comes up to us and tells us to stop work. He informs us that the council have just issued a blanket TPO for the area because the neighbour had objected. The developer was understandably furious having gone through the correct channels etc.. (We never got any more work off him) It turns out that the council had been neglecting their duty to provide proper tree surveys in order to be able to designate TPO’s in this area (which is why these trees end up nearly ‘slipping through the net’ ) It’s easy to have a go at the home owner, developer or contractor. If the council did their job properly, these situations wouldn’t arise so often. Important, mature trees with amenity value don’t just spring up overnight. It shouldn’t be beyond the council to provide decent surveys and make quality decisions on which trees should be protected. Surely the TPO should be issued purely by merit of the value of the tree rather than the perceived character of the homeowner! I’m not condoning it at all but you can see why people resort to ringbarking. (Sorry for the derailment, Steve)