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Timber Man

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  1. Sound guys. No, not local but work the area a little...Have stayed in their yard briefly and come across them from time to time.
  2. Ha ha, they are nice people to deal with, and certainly cut oak. I understand they have bought the Goodwin/ Titchmarsh mill.
  3. Cost of moving a skyline and set up would be ridiculous for a small amount, your average run of the mill skyline only lifts a ton at a time, that's assuming suitable anchor trees and rigging trees are available. An awful lot can be winched in a day just ground winching, and even a 5/ 6 tonne winch will move a substantial piece , there is always the option of putting a block in to double up or divert pull. If the tree digs in? change the chain round on the tree and roll it.Swing the tree so it is being pulled tip first,...theres always a way .
  4. Ha, fair enough. Only ever sold to them and were a very good company to deal with.
  5. Hingleys are on your doorstep aren't they ?
  6. No worries,i can understand it on a site like that, but certainly on a production site £40 t wouldn't stack up for extraction alone. The one I mentioned above in the 70s was averaging over 50t an hour flying time and that was way more expensive than any other method. It was only used for mopping up a site , all the timber that was not economical to get by winch. Skyline outfits are putting timber to roadside for low 20s /t , that's processed ready for collection.
  7. How would it be worth it ? If they only flew 6 hours @ £1200 for 150t its very expensive extraction.
  8. First company I worked for used a heli in Argyll in the mid 70s. A run a minute , £270 an hour back then.
  9. Delivered to where ? I have 100 plus big ones to fell next week.
  10. Yes they do,... we cant fault them from our experiences.
  11. Thornton 4x4 breakers Halifax could be worth a try
  12. Surely although he may not have been on site until 8.30 and left at 3 some days his working day doesn't start and end then? Where do you draw the line on "a day" ? If a job is knocked out quickly and guys finish early they have been booked for a day and are entitled to be paid for it,the job will have been priced by how many days it will take, but I don't see how you can offset that against jobs that run over because of bad estimation, that is not the fault of the guys on the ground . By his own admission here we have someone that has built a successful company, I always think it is worth sharing some of that with those that are helping to achieve that,.its usually a good investment.
  13. Even forestry ltd have a tractor based unit and are within striking distance.
  14. I was working on an estate recently where they were without theirs for 5 weeks waiting for parts,...seems a bit poor in this day and age.
  15. I am glad you kept it too,..dogs temperaments do change as they get older , hot weather is a major trigger, but tbh I am not the best company when I am hot and stressed. I honestly don't believe any dog can be trusted with children regardless of breed, kids need training to be round dogs , not the other way round. Collies are no different , although dogs that are trained to work will react differently to ones that are domesticated , collies trained to work cattle are encouraged to nip. Ive seen 3-400 collies go through our hands over the years since a child, my Father was a dog "breaker" all his life til his death in his 80s , I started breaking them at 7 years old and can honestly say I do not remember one of them being aggressive towards humans, I have only ever been bitten once in anger and that was my own fault, I was plaguing an old dog in hot weather and he had enough of it, I was very young at the time and learnt from it.
  16. 55-65p per hoppus foot,...breaking tops out for firewood £16 / t
  17. Brilliant tale. There were still a few of those guys about when I first started, set of irons and a lump of rope for a flip line was all they seemed to have.
  18. Agreed, ...and it makes sense to me to rope trees away from danger, not towards them as was the case with this tree ? Is that experience or just common sense ?
  19. Yes I accept that the wind could be questionable for that tree , but the point I am trying to make is.... I personally don't know one experienced faller that would have set that tree up to be felled like that in that situation, wind or no wind. To get that tree on the floor safely it needs a pull line installing and attaching to a vehicle, it needs a gob putting in, a back cut and a bit of a tug. Now in my mind that would take the same amount of time to do whatever angle you put it at and whichever angle you pulled it at, the only thing that would have taken slightly more time is gobbing at ground level which should have happened. It honestly makes no sense to me to be pulling a tree like that when the moment you start pulling you are instantly lifting the holding wood that you need to maintain to prevent it breaking out. The tree was helped on its way with the pull at that angle, to me that is just lack of experience.
  20. It interests me why people consider time pressure could have contributed greatly to this tree . Why is that ?
  21. I have wondered this myself. There is certainly a lot of opposition to FISA on a lot of things by the FCA, and I guess in the grand scheme of things its still early days. As long as FISA exist then the forestry sector will be governed by it, sadly a lot of these organisations are run by people that have little to no practical experience. A crossover between both sides of the industry hardly seems workable as far as training and regs go.
  22. For sure, I started in the mid 70s, obviously tickets, ppe etc were unheard of then. Back in those days it was all piece rate,..you learnt the job or you starved. There was a reason why the old boys did things certain ways , and I disnt see any point in trying to prove them wrong, people were felling trees long before me. Not sure what the solution is .
  23. Certainly 2 tree length applies to UK forestry, and is being strongly enforced on FC sites now, no second man allowed for wedging etc. guys getting red carded on a regular basis. There has been some discussion about a 2 tier training or certification reshuffle, how that would work, who knows? I work with arb companies from time to time and have to say there are some very good climbers around, but have met very few that have much felling experience or knowledge, the same could be said vice versa. The reality is that someone can be "qualified" after a few days training and an assessment.

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