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Timber Man

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  1. Kemsley kept a lot of guys in work,its easy to se how coppice became neglected once it closed It was zoned for haulage purposes wasn't it ? We sent about 2.5k tons down from a site in S Yorks ,..long way to haul rubbish. A lot of the loads weren't even strapped, although they ran into trouble with cross loading eventually. I remember a girl getting killed near Tunbridge Wells around the time of the 87 blow. Load slipped off sideways and crushed her car,all loads had to be netted after that. St Regis also kept an awful lot of people going , there seemed to be a lot of squads dedicated to harvesting for them all year. Bowater also had a big softwood pulp mill in the north where I originate from. A lot of guys made a living cutting thinnings, handballing onto frame tractors , roadside stacking then handball again onto lorries.
  2. I knew Peter that got killed , very sad . Bob Walters was the one we used for quota,..nice old boy.
  3. Kemsley at Sittingbourne perhaps ? they took hardwood too
  4. Ive felled some spruce recently that were using a tank to gob and fell and round up,..i very rarely round a tree until its down, these were clean trees using a 660, and a container of fuel before lunch.Big hardwood its the norm. Most of the guys I come across working cheap have moved across from arb because they need the work, theyre the least productive too.
  5. Cordwood was certainly a national term,ans still gets used a lot in the hardwood trade. I think it possibly died a death a little back in the 80s when the pits started to close. Less and less wood was corded on site as there was more topwood available for firewood from the diminishing prop market.
  6. That's the one, a cord was recognised stack of firewood . Most of my early days were in the north,..so hillsides and ghylls, so no real machine burn. We could measure down to around 6qg, for limbs for the chocking gangs. There were quite a few mobile outfits with push benches that chocked on site, so not masses of waste. 10p a hoppus average price in those days,..fell, dress out and burn.
  7. Don't see a problem with it myself. When I first started a cord was a measure of firewood .In those days it was accepted that anything from large hardwood fells that was not destined for the mill belonged to the fallers.Their rate included hand burning tops unless there was a different arrangement. If the estate wanted to keep the firewood the fallers were paid a set amount per cord for stacking it .On some sites there was the option of fallers selling the firewood , in which case it was sold by the cord.
  8. Timber Man

    Moles

    Quite often runs near the surface are used as motorways by the moles as routes to water. Just one or two moles can be using these runs.
  9. Good fallers are those that get a lot of timber down with as little effort as possible.
  10. I would suggest that in a production paid industry any cutter is worth what he cuts. In any harvesting job that is paid on output there is or should be a price for cutting / processing, and a price for extraction. Admittedly with oversize/edge trees its not workable on piece , but it should be down to the contractor to make an assessment of that when viewing the site and build it into his costings. Whether he chooses a 120 or 160 a day cutter to do the work is his choice,..most contractors look at the bottom line ,...not always the cheapest option, however, whichever they choose it has to be cheaper than parking a harvester up and picking up a saw themselves.
  11. Well whoever it was directed at what qualifies you to suggest a cutter that has all his own gear etc and has been cutting for two years is only worth £1OO per day ?
  12. I didn't think the OP was complaining about anything, I read it as an enquiry.
  13. what would the 1600 - 2000 work out at as a tonnage rate roughly? why 110 a day, is that how much you think you are worth ?
  14. Try Even forestry Ltd
  15. There are a lot of cutters on £160 a day + now. I have cut at £180 and on piece made considerably more than that.
  16. Oh, just wondered, ive owned 7 down the years and didn't find them that bad tbh. It is possible to fit new seats. and windows. Turn on the spot on the brakes. It was quite easy to fit a rotating seat in the flat decks.
  17. Why do you say that ?
  18. Vastern timber may have something in oak.
  19. Can you honestly say looking at the pics that are available that the tree can be utilised profitably milling it small scale? Any wood is a natural product, but my point was that people tend to make comments without seeing the defects. Just from the pics available I can see problems with inbark, dead knots , movement in boards from twist, and that's the side we can see. I am making my comments from a buyer for sawmills. We could try and make a case for any tree and I know you do, but tbh even as firewood a tree isn't wasted.
  20. I often wonder when I read these type of threads whether people actually look at the photos or just don't see things. It appears to me from the photo that the tree has a twist in it and great big dead pegs. A fork at approx. 10 foot means a great big cleft running down the tree also. The potential recovery rate of anything of real value from this log wouldn't justify the milling in my opinion.
  21. The trees in the pics are only second grade, too many branches all round the tree. First grade douglas whatever size commands a premium, and could consequently will stand the haulage to the mills that cut it. By the time these trees are rounded up I don't see them any where near 6 foot, and that's before the rots cut off.
  22. Theres also some coming off the A14 widening
  23. Even forestry worth a try.
  24. Could try Frank Rowland,.. Rowland tractors,..they get about.

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