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Yup...it will just take a bit longer to get down to the bone wearing that class. 😁

Neither was I 😐

True. When you see fr jones selling stihl stuff with 30+% off rrp, it give the impression that every dealer is buying from stihl with a 50 or 60% discount to allow them to sell at those prices and still sell at a profit and pay for good after sales service. The fact is, they admittedly were buying in bulk from stihl to get the best price, but even so they would have been working on a profit margin of around 10% which has proved to be unsustainable. Unfortunately price seems to be the over riding buying decision for most customers, and they forget all the other parts of purchasing from a dealership needs to be paid for out of that margin such as aftersales support etc. We made a decision several years ago to focus mainly on the private consumer who appreciate a quality product, who want good service and have a realistic budget. This has worked well for us as although if asked we may well offer a small discount, but we can actually make more profit out of selling two machines to a private customer than selling a pallet to the trade at stupid prices. And a lot less hassle.

Yes, that's what I stated

No they are not the same.......although they are jointly owned and distributed now by the Yamabiko corporation. Shindaiwa pre date Echo by some years and both highly regarded Japanese manufacturers.

Really? My understanding is they only 'expect' that kind of discount, simply because of the prices FR Jones have been selling at....not every dealer is an FR Jones who give the impression dealers are making a big margin by offering such huge discounts. This has become obvious, as they are now bankrupt through selling a prices that were unsustainable.....even if that's what 'most tradespeople expect' I would be interested to hear from you exactly what percentage margin you think us dealers get from Stihl.......if unlike Jones we aren't buying machines by the pallet load to get better terms??

My advice is avoid the 'amazon' 'Alibaba' chinese tat. These things are really dangerous, and the last thing you want is hitting something solid and a chunk of it flying off and taking bits of you with it. I am biased towards Stihl, but other reputable manufacturers product the same at similar quality.........don't buy simply on price for these things. Quality can be a life saver in this instance, and they are not overly dear anyway. I have used not only Stihl, but Husky as well as SAWTEC and Oregon and all are well made

Quite obviously you can't. But my reply was in response to the comment before suggesting you should.....if you read ahead you will see.

Echo isn't the same company. There are a plethora of metal brush cutting blades available. All you need is the centre diameter (normally 25.4mm- or 1" but on early stuff particularly Huskys it can be 20mm) Then diameter, then number of teeth/blades on the edge. Then any manufacturers blade that matches that spec will fit.

Last set of accounts for them made up to and including 31st December 2021 show a LOSS of £711,214.00 for the year. Previous year was another loss of £56,039.00. You sell stuff (particularly Stihl) for little more than just above cost to under cut other long standing reputable businesses to put them out of business, then you need to sell a LOT of kit.......otherwise you will go out of business yourself. Jones were selling Stihl stuff cheaper than I could buy it from Stihl.....simply because they would buy a pallet at a time and stack them high and sell them cheap. Even though Stihl said discounts were frowned upon and to only collect in person.....assembled and demonstrated. Yet they turned a blind eye in return for volume sales. (I'm not bitter..much. However, I'm still trading.)

You don't phone the retailer in this instance IF they are insolvent. You contact your credit card provider and start a claim through section 75 protection.

Unlike credit card purchases, debit card purchases are not covered by section 75 of the consumer credit act (as debit cards are not CREDIT cards) You may have some legal redress under the voluntary chargeback scheme however. But unlikely being a voluntary scheme with very limited liability.

You would be forgiven for thinking this Glastonbury woke fest was organised and sponsored by the BBC

Watched Guns N Roses (think it was last night? on the BBC) and that Axel Rose just cannot sing anymore. Googled afterward thinking it was just me, but quite a lot going on about it and apparently he's ruined his vocal cords- had to cancel some of the tour earlier on this year

Love the fact they needed to arrow mark on your hand which fingers needed re-attaching! 😄

If the return is emitting air back into the tank it must be 'sucking' air in through the fuel pick up...otherwise if it wasn't then you would create a vacuum and the primer bulb would depress and not return once any air in the system has been expelled. If you are sure it is expelling air back into the tank then it must also be sucking it in from the pick up. If not then it doesnt make sense as the air in the primer bulb has to be coming from somewhere. Have you hooked out the pick up pipe in the tank, removed the fuel filter from the end and whilst pressing the primer put you tongue over the end of the pick up pipe....logically you should feel your tongue being drawn into the pipe under light pressure. If not and you are adamant it is still expelling air back into the tank and the primer appears to be operating as it should, then it may have a small pin prick hole in it, which is small enough to be sealed with your finger when primed hence why it still appears to work

I hope not....those that create submarines have very strict processes already. This one was pretty much knocked up in a shed and was declared unseaworthy. The insurance company supplied the CEO a disclaimer report stating all the reasons they wouldn't insure it and it was on his and his passengers own backs if he went through with it. He was on video after being informed of this stating 'where do I sign?' I suppose when you are super wealthy like his paying passengers insurance is an irrelevance. Not as if being off work because you've broken you leg is going to worry their financial situation. A big price to pay tho just for bragging rights at the billionaires top table

Well done. Good job. ...and yes, I like to think so. 😁👍

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Correct. I purchased a small local sole trader business to compliment my existing business several years ago. It was worth more to me than probably anyone else as although a small business it was still a competitor in terms of servicing and repair. The trading name. Email addresses, whatsapp id, reviews, logos, both mobile and landline numbers, historical customer data, website etc were all IP and were transferable to me on completion of the sale.

When you say they are worth anywhere between £25 and £110 each, are you looking at something like ebay to come to that conclusion? If so, ignore the 'buy it now' prices as quite obviously if they are still there, then they havent sold...so not worth what is being asked. If using the bay to price something I always look at the 'auctions' not the buy it nows. A genuine auction will generally end at its true worth for that moment in time.

Without wishing to appear demeaning, but taking a 7 year old ms170 worth probably 50 quid to a dealer is simply going to prove its beyond an economical repair for them to look at it. I try as be as tactful as I can with customers in the same situation...particularly those that ask 'is it worth repairing?'. We charge a 30 quid estimate/inspection fee upfront. That way we dont work for nothing and the customer doesnt end up with a bill they dont want to pay. Allows us to assess the machine price the job and contact customer. We do have customers with cheaper or older machines that 'baulk' at the suggestion we want the 30 quid to look at it......to which i simply say 'if you dont want to pay 30 quid for us to find out whats wrong with it, then you certainly wont want to pay more for us to repair it.....to that end you've just made your decision whether its worth repairing'

OK. There may be a remote possibility you have an MS170 fitted with the 'eco' 2-mix engine, which for a limited time was fitted and that did take the CMR6H. Not sure if your handbook is the same as this, but have a look at page 44 and you can see what I mean. Still doesn't help you with your issue, but at least answers why you may well have the CMR6H fitted. https://www.godfreys.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/0458-206-0121-B_ZBA_05_02.pdf

CMR6H is the narrow 10mm plug that is fitted to the MS171 (and others) but NOT the MS170. That and the similar MS180 have the earlier old school engines fitted which DO take the larger (not longer) bpmr7a plugs, so I am confused as you said you have an MS170 not an MS171?? A cmr6h plug will not even fit in an MS170 hole as it will be too small in diameter. So doesn't make any sense I'm afraid. Are your filler caps the white and black flip top ones or the all black screw down ones? Screw down means you have an MS170. Flip top means you have an MS171.

....but it wouldn't have run since the service if it were too long in the reach. You say it has been running with it fitted, so cant be the plug. The point being made if the plug is too long it would foul the top of the piston...hence the symptoms you have.