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as long as they were polite eh. But maybe you were getting the steak to through at the dogs to enable you to chore the rest of the yard

Ex army stuff is great. I found the US stuff better than UK though:sneaky2: Bloody typical! £50 for the last top I bought

Watch some of Reg's vids.

Got my snow gear sussed I think. Landrover, burning arisings & tea!

Top pic's Reg. You should set yourself up an advanced rig & crane work work shop. Your skill & know how in these fields are 2nd to none imo.

Well it's been a little wet of late & my water proof jacket is no longer water proof after a couple of winter/spring tours. I was on the wonder of what water proof clothing is generally worn out & about & if people choose to spend good £ on their wet weather work clothes?

Think of the burns unit in your local A&E! Must be an HSE issue.. The card write up should go no job to small no cuppa T refuseid.

Just wait for the arb assosiation ones to be sold on ebay. I've seen pleanty on vans that I'm sure are not on the approved list. Mind you the words have changed slightly so that can't be ilegal. Bloody loop holes!

Seal skin socks if you have the £ & leaking boots you dont want to get rid of quite yet coz you nicked them with a bloody spike! I do mean the make seal skin & am not encoriging an off shore cruse to isle's afar with club in hand. Although this may be slightly more adventure filled than a trip to some outdoor clothing shop (dependant on where you live)..

Future darwin award contenders their one day me thinks. Great set of funny vid's!

Couldn't agree more. Not the world the paper & laws live in though when things go wrong:thumbdown: Training & right attitude is the way fwd imo. Hard to get the right combo all the time though..

You are right on all points. I still find myself doing to much even after comunication. I find it easyer in some situations to take it on my self if I have had the expiriance of poor workmanship befor from people who just don't want to learn or have instruction because they have somehow been in the industry for a long time & think that is the way it should be done & I am a fool for wanting them to become more compitent in their job. Walking away is an option but as you point out this is only the smaller scale of lowering. Lucky these co's don't get a lookin on the more tec jobs, prob due to the fact they are not in that league of tree work & clients can work this out quite well. My point is that lowering is a skilled opperation & I feel some regulation to the required skill should be acnolaged, as this is often brushed under the ongoing supervision/ training onthe job trick tick insted of some investment in a true grounds persons value in our teams. After all climbers are required to go through lots of training ect to gain credit with bits of paper that tick boxs.

Trees & plants fruit & produce reactive growth in responce to times of enviormental stress?

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I Do the fig 8 attached to a strong point now & then for top outs. I find it lets it run enough befor I have the time to tend the line for myself without the classic death hold & shake your bones wrap/grip from others. I like to use the wraps with end of line on smaller branches I have cut off as a friction point for small limbs too. Sure none of this is nptc or hse reg, but get a recognition for the skill of the ground crew imo..

I found that too. But I also found that the rigging course was aimed at climbers! Alot of use to know how to rig from the ground when in the tree:confused1:

As Bob has said & yorself Mesterh sort em out. I would like the time to & do if I work reg for some co's. It is some times not possable when working with a new crew & the risk of my miss comication with a lack of experiance on their behalf (not that they wont be able to in time) that I have to lower for myself & direct crew into areas not yet found by them. It just seems to me that in an industry that seems so wraped up in regs for climbers that an integeral part of the team should be looked away from. Imo a climber is only as good as his/her ground cerw. Some times as a subi I HAVE to lower for my self because I have no choise if I want to earn the co £ & walk away not owing £ to the co's.

Been a steatch air wearing for a few yrs now. Type A. Someone I work for has got the new sipp ( green ones) & rates them. I used to like sipp untill the black with rainbow stitchin ones came out (they fell to bits in no time imo) mite go back that way for my next pair though as they are alot lighter than the streatch air & looks as if they will have the durability of the SA. Let alone the £40 less too..

At times I find the need to lower alot of my own material due to lack of staff on the ground & some times the lack of instruction over months in co's due to the lack of respect to the art of a good grounds persons! Has anyone else found this prob in our industury? Grounds people are as important as the climbing crew imo, i think with the enrolment of more complex rigging gear that ground crew should be given a class in rig gear & use with a qualification as climbing crew need for certain opp's!? Team work:confused1:

The same on an oak I think.

Lucky bloke. Hope the healing goes well for him. How did it happen? Kick back from lose matirial ect?

Badly worded & spelt as usual. I wasnt after comparison of the three against each other because I am well awear that they all have different capabiltys & uses. I was after peoples comparisons on use of each so I could make a disision on which to get. I am fair certin I will go for the Stein though. I am impresed with the other two but I have winches for lifting. Sorry for any confusion. I will lay the blame on Stella & keep it that way:blushing:

Wow. Great pic's of great trees:thumbup:

Has anyone had the plesure of using to compare these lowering devices? (subbi's I guess) If so what are your thoughts on them & why would you go for one over all from the other?