when i first came over to sweden i was on £20 an hour and thought it was the tits as it as double what i was on in the uk - i had all my kit provided and digs (of a sort actually they were rather gash) and the use of company van, phone etc. Once i stopped getting pissed all the time i started saving money. Self employed over here you need to charge a minimum of 400sek and hour to company but now there are so many desperate climbers that has been pushed as low as 320 which yeah sounds alot but the work season is retarded - work usually starts to come in around March but you may as well right of July and most of August as every one is on holiday, then you work Sep to novemberish and then your lucky to get much till next spring, and if you are legit you are as well as halving anything you earn as it goes to the tax man. Now as employed with all the perks of a reqgular contract (if you get one now they offer an hours as required contracts) you get sick pay after 6 months holiday pay and kit provided etc. but then even in stockholm you will be hard pressed to be on much more tha 160sek - guys i know are employed on 145 an hour - so yeah you still earn a bit more than in the uk but it isnt a cheep country. I do alright but then i've been lucky, and i live a relatively modes life style - i rarely go out on the piss proper and have no need to show off by buying fancy crap i dont need - instead during quite times i bugger off to some place cheep and get 6 months worth of drinking done - cheep flights to poland anyone??? There are more and more swedish wannabees and pleanty of young uk chaps trying to get out here but work is competative and often hard to find out side of the bigger cities, it helps if you have other skills so you can do more than one thing as myself and some other long termers i know out here have already reached to conclusion that it would be folly to rely purely on tree work to get you buy - though folk do manage it and have been very successful out here. But if you are young and single with out a mortgage then dont worry too much about the pennies you earn, get over here for the experience. If people have a strong work ethic matched with ability then evetually they land on their feet - or so i can say from my own experiences.