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Only touble with that theory Dave, is builders suppliers used to sell in weight but have now gone over to volume as the old way was seen to be unfair as it would depend how much moisture was in the sand/gravel. Weights and measures were involved and insisted specified volume was the way to go.

Davey, where abouts are you, it may help to fill in your profile then we know a bit more about you then those local to you may offer suggestions they know of. On a seperate note, its really nice to hear from a relative novice asking questions and taking the answers on board. Keep asking if you need help and hope you enjoy it here.

My 660 runs 36" fine but thats with skip chain. Even with skip on a 460 it would struggle though. Possibly heavily modded, running skip for the odd occasion maybe, but if its a one off/rare accasion, cant you get another saw in or a "help" from another arb?

Best advice there Davey.

Not very constructive:thumbdown: I wonder if those of you think he will be fine doing this actually read the whole thread? He has a car, not a winch, he is not experienced, an advanced method of felling is needed, sounds like he will be working on his own, has other work for a tree gang to do, hes not in a rush to get it done. Seems obvious the advice given by such as Dave and Steve is sensible to me:confused1: The guy has come here for advice, and good on him. Dont go giving the impression its easy to a novice, just because you think it is!

Only just opened the thread Dave, so a bit of catching up! Deffo not one of mine, would have been down and away. We maybe cowby fly-be-nights, but we dont hang around and wait for criticizm:001_tt2: No need for a brew in the day round here Mick, a pint of coffee at breakfast to get you going, and a gallon of beer to slow you down before bed, no time to stop in the day:thumbup:

Hi Tom, any chance you have a reference, link or some kind of proof of this? Would be very helpful:thumbup:

That was Louise's point Rupe, the fact that chips are a reusable product should be a duty of care in itself.

Lofty strikes again! Good old Deano, well lets hope so.

Cant believe this. Words are beyond me. Louise has just passed an interesting comment though, that these checks/stops ALWAYS get done in office hours around here when the type they are pulling over is straight forward folk trying to earn a living. But, wouldnt it be interesting if they pulled over the weekend warriors doing odd jobs, gardening, tree guvvies with a 6 x 4 trailer behind their saloon car to earn extra "cash" and taking waste to the council tip. Bet not many of them have waste carriers. Louise's words

:lol: I was a joskin in a former life:blushing:

Oooops, just realised thats a slight derail!

Ah, I would but im a grown up now. Not sure the gaffer would like me disappearing for a week or two, got responsibilities now:001_huh: How soon were you thinking?

All i have from back then is memories Stevie, nice to see pics from time to time. Taking pics back then was the last thing on our minds, it was all about who could drop the biggest tree with the smallest bar, the most cig breaks in the day and how many tinnies we could sup at night and still cut the next day. Good times though, very low stress and got paid whatever:thumbup1:

Not sure im up for it Jon, last time i came down your neck of the woods to drink cider was about 20 years ago. Only went for the weekend and ended up staying over a week:post: Didnt get much sleep either:blushing:

looks like a 8210 to me, a bit smaller than the TW's. Good bus all the same. It may make me a little old, but i was working at this time, just out of school and spent many a happy day removing DED elms. Until the day i winched one over and crushed a JD 2140 with the winch on the back:001_rolleyes: Nice couple of pics Stevie, you got any more like it?

Jon, if you want that much i could fix you up but it wont be mixed with all that rubbish, only best willow, pop and conifer. When can i deliver?

Nice to see threads with a sense of humour from time to time:001_rolleyes:

I dont believe there is a cure, no. The main problem being, Stihl dont see it as a problem although it is a common issue. Think the only way to deal with it is, as Nige says clean out more thoroughly and more regularly. Or, dont bother with the brake when the saw gets hot:blushing:

Quite common on 660's

If you were to compare a tree gang to say a gang of builders, the "climber" would be the brick layer doing the technical bit, the "groundie" would be the site supervisor doing the organising and basically turn his hand to any job required, and labourers are labourers. On the builders site the bricky and the supervisor would be on comparable wages, but a wide margin is in the tree gang. Possibly a generalisation, but IMO some climbers need to get down a peg or two, or we should appreciate groundies more.

Just being lazy I guess Dave. My point is, sometimes groundies are very under-rated. They have the ability to control whole working site, being on site supervisors. More multi skilled i guess and tend to be still willing to get the job finished with quality when its 5pm, raining and the climber is "tending his ropes" Big up the groundie for a change, a site can easily be a mess without a good one!

:lol: Nah, not the one you are thinking of, he is usually worth his money, and you do need to make allowancies for age sometimes:001_rolleyes:

Interesting thread this. Just to throw my ten in, what if a climber cant (or wont) do the groundies job? I have two groundies(with rescue tickets) that sub to me that will turn up EVERY morning fresh, full of beans, willing to pick up any saw, any amount of kit, not ask for coffee or what time we finish and not even moan about the weather if its crap. However, i had a subbie climber who thought he was worth £150 a day, would turn up half an hour late(regularly), then ask for coffee when he turned up, have a couple of smokes and seem to have all the time in the world as he was "a climber". He would then eventually get to the job and proceed to build his kit, tittle with saws, drink more coffee and smoke some more, eventually get into the tree 2 hours after start of works, spend 4 hours in the tree in total for the day then think he didnt need to pick up logs and not help clear up after a "day climbing"! Who is worth their money? IMO, i would rather climb myself and hire a good groundy ANY day. Groundies are well under valued im afraid and have said it before. They tend not to be premadonnas!