Making the news today....

[Vespasian]

2 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

The video is shocking and upsetting.

 

But am I in a position to judge?

 

Have I ever had friends or coworkers killed by some one with a concealed gun? No.

 

The guy does look to reach back for something. I guess the cop was sh1t scared he was going to die. Did he over reached? probably, but maybe many of us would have in the same situation. I'm just very glad its not a situation I will ever find myself in.

there was what looked like a handbag on the floor, as the fella got to it it looked like he flung it out the way..   thats why the cop shot him..

 

still no excuse, it wasp plain as day the couple weren't a threat..

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 hours ago, Vespasian said:

the poor fella..  

Context?

 

What if there were a dozen spatchcocked spaniel puppies (or worse) in the hotel room?

 

If we knew the context we could (possibly) 'feel' quite differently about the scenario we have been presented with.

 

It's most out of character for you to make a snap judgement  

 

[Vespasian]

29 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Context?

 

What if there were a dozen spatchcocked spaniel puppies (or worse) in the hotel room?

 

If we knew the context we could (possibly) 'feel' quite differently about the scenario we have been presented with.

 

It's most out of character for you to make a snap judgement  

 

what context?.. a cop got himself worked up, panicked and ended up shooting a man.. the fact that he gave the fella clear orders to do as he was told saved said police officer from being charged with manslaughter...  sometimes its as simple as it looks..

 

 

just to be sure, I've already searched online for context.  was there a terrorist incident in the days leading to this mans death,  leading to an enhanced sense of danger for police officers investigating gun related incidents at the time..

 

Then theres the police training video's..   they have one in america that shows a routine traffic stop, during which the driver of a car gets out the car and unexpectedly slashes at the throat of the officer at the scene..  its much quicker to lunge for a man, than to pull your gun and get a shot in...

 

So officer training is part of the context...  

 

At the end of the day, it was a police officer working himself up, simple as that...   not fit for purpose, he will be put on traffic duty until he resigns..

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

 

Almost enough....

 

Name of the deceased?  Background check?

[matelot]

Seemingly there had been reports of a gun getting waved out the hotel window.

 

The guy looked like he instinctively pulled up his trousers up as they were falling down after crawling along the floor. Even if he had a gun in his waistband I can't see how he could have pulled it out, taken the safety off, aimed it and fired at the two officers who had AR15s pointed at him.

[Mesterh]

An awful situation but then I live in a different world from them so my perspective is no doubt quite different. Im sure plenty of other times cops and hostages have been shot due to not reacting quickly enough, I also think if someone pointed an automatic weapon at me I would do exactly what they said which unfortunately that guy didnt so can you really blame the copper for shooting him? I think the way the video looks ie it seems like the guy talking is the shooter which makes it look worse than it was. I think the fact that they walked over him shows there was a far bigger situation going on.

 

I wouldn't want to be a cop here or in the US, respect to them all, except the bent ones, obviously.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mesterh]

On 07/12/2017 at 13:11, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Don't get off that horse!  

 

That's exactly what the snowflakes want...  There have been years (decades) of using the "racism" label to subdue genuine, intelligent discussion of the cultural diversity issue.  And there IS an issue - people are starting to realise it now and to dismiss the tired, bully-boy, lefty, snowflake so called racism label to subdue it.

I agree.

 

Its just that there are also a lot of racists jumping on that bandwagon. People who have a genuine concern about immigration should make sure that they dont get caught up with those who's only concern is immigration as it doesn't help their argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[matelot]

54 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

I agree.

 

Its just that there are also a lot of racists jumping on that bandwagon. People who have a genuine concern about immigration should make sure that they dont get caught up with those who's only concern is immigration as it doesn't help their argument.

 

Or maybe we should just admit the "racists" have substantially been right?

 

The likes of Rotherham wouldn't have happened if people like you hadn't hysterically cried "racist" whenever someone mentioned grooming. That's maybe something you should reflect upon? 

 

 

[Mesterh]

5 hours ago, matelot said:

Or maybe we should just admit the "racists" have substantially been right?

 

The likes of Rotherham wouldn't have happened if people like you hadn't hysterically cried "racist" whenever someone mentioned grooming. That's maybe something you should reflect upon? 

 

 

Oh dear God. Here we go again

 

 It's my fault a load of kids were raped because I think it's ok to allow some foreigners into our country is it? Jeesh that's a stupid thing to say! Actually no your right, your a genius. I think all dogs should be shot and none allowed into the country. Just think there will be no more toddlers mauled to death(around 200,000 dog bites a year, around 1,500 of those to children) no more permanently scarred people from dog attacks, no more kids losing their eye sight from worm infections spread through dog feaces and imagine how nice it would be not to have to drag brash through that same grasp. Good idea hey? 

 

There is nothing of worth to reflect on in your statement. Go on tell me all those kids who died at the Ariana Grande concert was my fault too. 

 

And please don't make matters up, I have no undying love for other races, I don't think we should just let anyone and everyone into our country without proper back ground checks, I don't think anyone should be able to hide behind their colour and be able to shout racist. I just don't believe we can blame everything on other races as you have done plenty of times hence a lot of people don't like what you say. I agree with you on some of you idea's but you do yourself no favors at all. Yes let's have some control on who enters the country, let's deport illegal immigrants and those who threaten our way of life or who want to change it for the worst, I agree with that.

 

If it was up to people like you I would not have some of the friends and family I have. Can you reflect on that at all?

 

 

 

 

[Haironyourchest]

Trump, Israel, Embassy, Riots. Just spent the last few evenings studying up on history of Israel. Wow, what a tragic mess.