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[stihlmadasever]

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Mogg the next tory leader ??

[TIMON]

Don't you mean fallible?

Surely, only the pope is infallible [emoji33]

Interesting you mention the Palestinians, as their plight seems to be all the worse when they are "housed" in neighbouring Arab countries, something that the BDS movement conveniently turns a blind eye to...,

I have good friends on both sides of that argument. But thats another debate. (One that I'm well up for by the way) [emoji51][emoji106]

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, TIMON said:

Don't you mean fallible?

Surely, only the pope is infallible

Interesting you mention the Palestinians, as their plight seems to be all the worse when they are "housed" in neighbouring Arab countries, something that the BDS movement conveniently turns a blind eye to...,

I have good friends on both sides of that argument. But thats another debate. (One that I'm well up for by the way)



 

Well spotted.

 

I suspect that's because they have their own country.  It's being stolen from them.

[TIMON]

Well spotted.
 
I suspect that's because they have their own country.  It's being stolen from them.

Very debatable that one.
When was the last time Israel/Palestine a Sovereign Arab nation?
If you trace back through it's history you will find that it was about 500 years ago.
Personally I'm in favour of a two state solution.... but they've already been offered that and turned it down.
The sad but uncomfortable truth is that the Palestinians won't be satisfied until every Israeli has been ethnically cleansed, the holocaust denied, and the remains of the original temple that is under the mosque dumped into a landfill site.

[Mark J]

28 minutes ago, TIMON said:

 

Very debatable that one.
When was the last time Israel/Palestine a Sovereign Arab nation?
If you trace back through it's history you will find that it was about 500 years ago.
Personally I'm in favour of a two state solution.... but they've already been offered that and turned it down.
The sad but uncomfortable truth is that the Palestinians won't be satisfied until every Israeli has been ethnically cleansed, the holocaust denied, and the remains of the original temple that is under the mosque dumped into a landfill site.
 

Mate, I've been over there and ran a marathon through Bethlehem raising money for 'Medical Aid for Palestinians'.

 

The sanctions put in place by the Israelies (In violation of UN Law) are nothing short of subhuman.

Edited September 9, 2017 by Mark J

[devon TWiG]

11 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

You could start a whole new thread asking for nominations great wise one 

 

It could be the land of hemp & flax for the weaving of hairy shirts and natural fibre flip-flop! Hand rolled oats, granola and yoghurt as a compulsory breakfast, vegan main meal and PA piped Corbinesque doctrine starting at 05:00 with the group exercise. Elevensies would include pilates and group hugging, compulsory humming and meditation 4hrs/day, free love and mind altering drugs for all......

 

Hang on.....

 

that actually sounds quite utopian 

That almost perfectly describes TOTNES  !!!!   ( except for the early starts )

[matelot]

57 minutes ago, Mark J said:

The sanctions put in place by the Israelies (In violation of UN Law) are nothing short of subhuman.

 

Maybe it's because the Palestinians constantly attack the Israelis?

 

Anyway, is Israel not a shining light of multiculturalism in the Middle East? It seems the best run country there and has the best economy....

 

I wonder what happened to the Jews in the neighbouring countries? Ohhh, I just remembered, they were all killed or left.

 

 

[skyhuck]

42 minutes ago, matelot said:

Maybe it's because the Palestinians constantly attack the Israelis?

 

Anyway, is Israel not a shining light of multiculturalism in the Middle East? It seems the best run country there and has the best economy....

 

I wonder what happened to the Jews in the neighbouring countries? Ohhh, I just remembered, they were all killed or left.

 

 

 So these immigrants you like?

[TIMON]

Mate, I've been over there and ran a marathon through Bethlehem raising money for 'Medical Aid for Palestinians'.
 
The sanctions put in place by the Israelies (In violation of UN Law) are nothing short of subhuman.

I don't agree with everything that Israel does, but I do think that the PA (the grand Mufti, Arafat and Abbas) and Hamas shoulder the brunt of the blame for the sorry mess of the ordinary Palestinians.

You only have to look at what is taught in Palestinian schools to understand why the misery is perpetuated.

The Palestinians are betrayed by their own leaders. Here's an interesting piece written by a Palestinian human rights activist. Personally, I think it speaks volumes about why no solution has been found.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7637/palestinians-betrayal

[matelot]

15 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

 So these immigrants you like?

The entire Middle East used to have a large Jewish population. Over time they were pushed out (ie persecuted) by muslims. There is something poetic about a muslim community complaining about being persecuted. It's like seeing a bully getting a kicking....