Making the news today....

[Johnsond]

5 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

And where can you show us that it isn't? I forgot to check last night, but who mentioned 2 tier policing first in this? I wonder....

I stated “be it real or perceived “ read the post and look at the context, I’m not rioting but I’ve enough common sense to see why tensions have risen year in year out. 

[Johnsond]

9 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

This is what I don't get Dave; you're all saying the same thing, that riots or rioting should be policed equally and fairly without prejudice regardless of race, religion or political affiliation. Everyone is in agreement, so what are you constantly arguing about?

 

How do you, Dave, think we should calm the situation down right now, and hopefully resolve it ultimately?

 

It's got to be worth pushing back against the lies and misinformation that's being spread online surely. All this propagation of hatred and division within society is helping no-one.

 

Riots in the UK: online propagandists know how to work their audiences – this is what we are missing

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Instead of focusing on the people sending out the propaganda, we should turn our attention to those who receive it.

 

Not sure why you are implying you are observing this from afar 42 !
Im not arguing, all I’ve said is the same thing right through. If others want to read the boogey man’s presence into it and get worked up that’s not my issue. 
Look at the news !! You think Dave ( isn’t it good  to use a real name) having an opinion either way is having any effect on this !!. 
What I will say is a lack of acknowledgment by Starmer that there is more of an issue than  just the far right thuggery line he is quoting repeatedly is not helping matters at all. 

[Doug Tait]

The more I think about it the stranger it seems.

 

Lockerbie, 270 victims, wasn't a mass victim event.

Harold Shipman, 250 victims, wasn't a mass victim events.

Titanic, 1500 victims, wasn't a mass victim event.

HMS Hood, 1415 victims, wasn't a mass victim event.

Manchester Arena Bombings, 23 victims, a mass victim event.

 

It's bizarre.

[manco]

15 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

You are factually wrong, as much as you want to classify the attacks on the police as a certain scale of event( which you did ) , they just aren’t. Yes police have been injured but cities have not been wrecked and there have been no mass casualty events by the common definition of the phrase. 
You are embarrassing yourself with your giggling I’d say. But if it makes you happy then it’s no big issue for me. 

yes, youre right mr wiener. 

by definition everything i say is wrong and biased, even when all im doing is quoting your own words at you.

common definition you say. as opposed to the basic definition of a casualty, or more than one person injured?

ah, so youre saying that no property has been damaged in any of the riots?

ok, obviously the news was lying about the shops being smashed and looted, and the library burnt, and the cars on fire, and walls pulled down for something to throw.

yes that sounds right, the bbc lying again and reporting false news.

unlike the people who reported that the southport attacker was a muslim asylum seeker immigrant. they were clearly giving the real truth.

 

im not embarrassed at all with your name, are you? sounds like it isnt all that big, that could be the problem.

 

[manco]

20 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

And where can you show us that it isn't? I forgot to check last night, but who mentioned 2 tier policing first in this? I wonder....

that would be mr love-length who first introduced the claim of 2 tier policing into this thread.

[manco]

21 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Not correct in any way 

no? so you deny saying that.

 

[manco]

21 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I stated “be it real or perceived “ read the post and look at the context, I’m not rioting but I’ve enough common sense to see why tensions have risen year in year out. 

tensions have risen because idiots keep burning libraries and discouraging learning.

and then more idiots online start slagging off anyone not white in britain, under the claim of asylum seekers being dangerous.

 

[manco]

14 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Not sure why you are implying you are observing this from afar 42 !
Im not arguing, all I’ve said is the same thing right through. If others want to read the boogey man’s presence into it and get worked up that’s not my issue. 
Look at the news !! You think Dave ( isn’t it good  to use a real name) having an opinion either way is having any effect on this !!. 
What I will say is a lack of acknowledgment by Starmer that there is more of an issue than  just the far right thuggery line he is quoting repeatedly is not helping matters at all. 

the issue is scum are rioting and destroying their own communities for no reason or gain.

[manco]

12 minutes ago, Doug Tait said:

The more I think about it the stranger it seems.

 

Lockerbie, 270 victims, wasn't a mass victim event.

Harold Shipman, 250 victims, wasn't a mass victim events.

Titanic, 1500 victims, wasn't a mass victim event.

HMS Hood, 1415 victims, wasn't a mass victim event.

Manchester Arena Bombings, 23 victims, a mass victim event.

 

It's bizarre.

lockerbie, not an immigrant

shipman, not an immigrant

titanic, not an immigrant

hood, not an immigrant

manchester, immigrant

 

does that help?

[sime42]

Bud, in terms of pure volume of work, anyone is an observer in comparison to you! 🤷‍♂️

If you're not arguing, then what have you been doing on here for the last 10, 20 pages or whatever it is now? If instead, you've just been saying the same thing over and over, what's the point? 🤷‍♂️

 

From what I've seen everyone is saying that riots or rioting should be policed equally and fairly without prejudice regardless of race, religion or political affiliation. The scum bags smashing and attacking everything and everyone should be locked up for a long long time. Actually no, hard manual labour would be a far more effective punishment. Our prison system is fcked anyway, certainly no room for the hundreds or maybe thousands that will hopefully be sentenced eventually. Though our legal system is also fcked so that won't happen any time soon unfortunately.

 

Anyway, rather than pointing out one thing that won't fix the issue, what would help matters in your opinion ve? I think that it's got to be worth pushing back against the lies and misinformation that's being spread online surely. Some people fall for it far too easily, as you've personally experienced ve. All this propagation of hatred and division within society is helping no-one. "Othering" groups within society is at the start of a very ugly path.