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[5thelement]

14 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

Cant work out why they are happy to use draconian measures like welding doors shut on buildings or shipping people off to containment camps but not prepared to make the vulnerable take a vaccine 

Maybe the vaccines are largely ineffectual on the current Covid strains? 

[Mick Dempsey]

I read that the Chinese vaccines are less effective than the western produced ones.

 

True or not I don’t know.

[GarethM]

Either way they should by now have a minimal level of natural immunity, like any country now has.

 

So can only presume they are still religiously addicted to the PCR testing.

[Johnsond]

53 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

They are in a right old mess on this. Poor vaccine take up in the older age groups and facing way more contagious variants than we did at our peek covid so could rip through the country very very fast.

 

Cant work out why they are happy to use draconian measures like welding doors shut on buildings or shipping people off to containment camps but not prepared to make the vulnerable take a vaccine 

It’s amazing that after all this time and what we’ve seen and learnt that people are still buying into this crap. Ie “ more contagious variants and even to the point of advocating forcing people to be vaccinated”. 
 

[5thelement]

3 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

It’s amazing that after all this time and what we’ve seen and learnt that people are still buying into this crap. Ie “ more contagious variants and even to the point of advocating forcing people to be vaccinated”. 
 

I have never believed in forcing anyone to have the vaccine and not had any myself. My point was if the vaccines worked against the current strains of Covid it would be easier to encourage people to have the jab rather than weld them in or move them to salt mines, so I would assume the vaccines clearly don’t work.

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

I have never believed in forcing anyone to have the vaccine and not had any myself. My point was if the vaccines worked against the current strains of Covid it would be easier to encourage people to have the jab rather than weld them in or move them to salt mines, so I would assume the vaccines clearly don’t work.

I would say your assumption is correct. 

[coppice cutter]

I see the latest being wheeled out is that having covid actually suppresses the immune system and makes you more vulnerable to subsequent covid infections plus cold or any other viruses doing the rounds.

 

Errr, wasn't that exactly what Professor Cahill and her colleagues flagged up as a major concern with the mRNA vaccines when they were being proposed, and they were thoroughly cancelled for doing so? Namely, that they may give a short term boost in immunity against the specific variant of virus they were designed for, but at the expense of greater vulnerability to any further strains of it and/or any other virus.

[5thelement]

2 minutes ago, coppice cutter said:

I see the latest being wheeled out is that having covid actually suppresses the immune system and makes you more vulnerable to subsequent covid infections plus cold or any other viruses doing the rounds.

 

Errr, wasn't that exactly what Professor Cahill and her colleagues flagged up as a major concern with the mRNA vaccines when they were being proposed, and they were thoroughly cancelled for doing so? Namely, that they may give a short term boost in immunity against the specific variant of virus they were designed for, but at the expense of greater vulnerability to any further strains of it and/or any other virus.

Last year in France there where more children in ICU with Bronchitis than with Covid. There is now a Bronchitis epidemic in children, two kids in my daughters class are in hospital at present.

Mass Vaccination of children and forcing them to wear masks all day indoors, coincidence?

[Woodworks]

4 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I read that the Chinese vaccines are less effective than the western produced ones.

 

True or not I don’t know.

 I think you are right and they wain quite quickly according to another article in Nature . They have new ones in the pipeline. 

 

Came across this which also explains Chinese government strategy

 

 

China’s first mRNA vaccine is close — will that solve its COVID woes?

WWW.NATURE.COM

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Researchers say a highly effective jab will help to avoid hospitals getting overwhelmed, but probably won’t end the country’s ‘zero COVID’ policy. Researchers say a highly effective jab will help...

 

[GarethM]

All depends on if the riot's lead to Winnie the pooh stepping down or an absolute bloodbath.