Making the news today....

[GarethM]

Which school was that ?, I've known about the failures at DG one for years tho.

[GarethM]

I'll have a read later.

 

I only talk from experience post college, working in schools. The old Victorian & 70s schools were worn out but perfectly functional, all the brand new 2000s steel frame ones were too hot or too cold and either falling apart or leaking like a sieve.

 

Think the construction industry for around 15 years had this addiction to steel frame buildings, but forgot all materials move differently.

[trigger_andy]

4 hours ago, Big J said:

The local contractors were employed for the fitout and finishing. Being a Highland Council project, the architects had only limited control of who was chosen, and I was not saying blaming the local contractors for any kind of negligence, only saying that they were not used to working at the standard set by the Austrian team.

That’s my point though. 🤷‍♂️ 

 

4 hours ago, Big J said:

I used this is an example of the sometimes apparent skills gap in certain professions between local contractors and foreign contractors. 

But there is British Crews who know how to build an Airtight House/Buikding though. Just because the Council screwed up does not mean we have to have an influx of cheat Eastern European labour does it?

 

And there is procedures to get the relevant skill gap filled with over-seas personnel. Yes it takes time but clearly this building was not thrown up in a day. I had to go through the same procedure to come to Brazil. We had to prove that what I was coming down to do could not be carried out by a local. Lots of paperwork. Once I’ve trained them up I’ll not be required back.
 

It’s the same as building to a Pasivhus standard. Train the British Crews on this standard and give British people the work. 
 

The Council screwing up this job is no poster for mass migration and lowering standards and pay for British people that’s for sure. 
 

 

[GarethM]

Looks like I'm going down a internet rabbit hole later, I understand it's low grade timber formed into panels and highly insulated like a wood version of a cavity wall but in Lego block sections.

 

So what's the difference other than the wood to say a well constructed breeze block and blown cavity ?.

[GarethM]

Looks like I'm going definitely going down the rabbit hole. It was partly the sawdust insulation of the cross section, as the general consensus was wool and wood fibres such as shavings were terrible R value.

[Johnsond]

Greater London Ulez expansion given go-ahead by Sadiq Khan

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Sadiq Khan’s decision comes in the face of mass opposition

Khan has the same attitude to consultations as the SNP it would seem, why bother wasting tax payers money if you are not going to listen to the people affected by your  actions. 

[GarethM]

Hopefully that'll be the wake up call Londoners need to kick the spoilt ruiner of London out of office.

[eggsarascal]

16 hours ago, Big J said:

 

Well there is that, but another example would be construction workers. 

I remember my brother saying that they had to dramatically up the wages of construction workers on their engineering site just to keep them as the exodus of European builders meant there was a serious shortfall on the housing developments.

 

Brickies weren't exactly on minimum wage before hand!

That’s one of the reasons I voted leave, brickies might not have been in minimum wage but the wages weren’t exactly great, now sites are having to pay proper wages to get lads on site.

 

Before Brexit a brickie was doing well to make £200/day.

 

Would you be happy putting in a back breaking day for less than £200?

[5thelement]

19 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Utter bollocks. 
 

I’ll go head to head with any remoaner any time any place. 
 

I'm unfortunate enough to have to mix on a social and professional level with loads of lame assed brexmoaner pessimists on a day to day basis.  Without exception, every time I’ve had a conversation with these types they roll over and submit……

 

 

 

Flunitrazepam Is a wonderdrug 😂

 

My main issue with any Brexit discussion is you can’t even ask the question “What benefits have you seen so far?” without people spitting their dummies out and calling you a remoner or that somehow you are being unpatriotic. 
Its like showing even a tad of empathy for the Palestinians automatically labels you an antisemite, very strange.

Edited November 25, 2022 by 5thelement

[Johnsond]

41 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

Yep, very much agree.

 

If there was a single, solid benefit of Brexit, the Tories would have been shouting it from the rooftops. Their silence is very telling.

The benefits that Andy described J are a good enough start for me. Less dependence upon ready made cheap imported Labour and a drive to train or apprentice our youngsters, surely that is better than watching a locust type clearing out of various Eastern European countries skilled workers to benefit businesses at the expense of our own.