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[felixthelogchopper]

There is a third Felix, and it's absolutely apparent whilst the program is running....

 

It's a distasteful, disorganised, pointless and shambolic pantomime. Personally, I absolutely agree and support the decision for a "grown up" politician to not have engaged in such a disaster.

 

That said, and it absolutely baffles me, the audience response has been quite a surprise.

 

 

 

I didn't miss that Mark, I asked a question, you answered - job done.

 

Temerity...? Like it

 

Have to say that I disagree, Kevin. The only element that you describe was for me plainly created by May's non-attendance provoking the references to such.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Have to say that I disagree, Kevin. The only element that you describe was for me plainly created by May's non-attendance provoking the references to such.

 

Fair do's Felix, but it was just a shouting match where they were all over talking each other? I can't see that it actually achieved anything?

 

PM's absence certainly gifted the chimps a cheap dig but would her attendance have resulted in anything tangibly different in terms of output other than allowing the Prime Minister to be dragged down to the level of the rest?

 

I genuinely don't think so and I think it would have demeaned the office of PM.

[Mark J]

Theresa May demeans the office of PM everytime she wakes up.

[felixthelogchopper]

Fair do's Felix, but it was just a shouting match where they were all over talking each other? I can't see that it actually achieved anything?

 

PM's absence certainly gifted the chimps a cheap dig but would her attendance have resulted in anything tangibly different in terms of output other than allowing the Prime Minister to be dragged down to the level of the rest?

 

I genuinely don't think so and I think it would have demeaned the office of PM.

 

I think you are cheapening things yourself a bit by referring to all the attendees as 'chimps'. What I saw was standard fare and no different to the last televised debate I watched in 2015 with regards to the talking over. It spoke volumes to me that May did not attend as did her nervous laughing response earlier that she was far too busy with important things like Brexit (paraphrased but the gist of it). Too busy to put her party's views and manifesto, albeit vague and uncosted, in front of the public who she expects to hand her a mandate to govern? I still say too arrogant or too scared to debate unscripted.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I think you are cheapening things yourself a bit by referring to all the attendees as 'chimps'. What I saw was standard fare and no different to the last televised debate I watched in 2015 with regards to the talking over. It spoke volumes to me that May did not attend as did her nervous laughing response earlier that she was far too busy with important things like Brexit (paraphrased but the gist of it). Too busy to put her party's views and manifesto, albeit vague and uncosted, in front of the public who she expects to hand her a mandate to govern? I still say too arrogant or too scared to debate unscripted.

 

Alright! That's a fair point! I shouldn't have given the impression that I was referring to the attendees as chimps, but their behaviour was pretty appalling.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[felixthelogchopper]

Alright! That's a fair point! I shouldn't have given the impression that I was referring to the attendees as chimps, but their behaviour was pretty appalling.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

Fair one.

[Mark J]

[Mark J]

Alright! That's a fair point! I shouldn't have given the impression that I was referring to the attendees as chimps, but their behaviour was pretty appalling.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

Well you envisaged that the viewers would be retards earlier. Are chimps better than retards?

[Mull]

I think May took the damage limitation route, which will be damaging for her anyway.

Obviously her supporters will go down the "she doesn't want lower herself" route![emoji849]

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

So would I! We are vastly over populated in this country .

 

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+1

 

Who said on the debate (rhetorical question, it MUST have been Nuttal) "...it's not so much the immigrants that are the problem but rather the immigration policy..." (or something like that.)

 

It was clearly apparent that those that don't see the recent historical lack of an effective control of inward migration as a problem were pulling out all the stops to personalise the issues at an individual level whilst simultaneously attempting to gloss over the No.1 doorstep concern of the entire UK and similarly attempting to score cheap points against the Tories for withdrawing the Migration Impact Fund (Government quietly abandons Gordon Brown's £50m pot for councils to ease pressure on housing, schools and hospitals - https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/aug/06/fund-impact-immigration-scrapped)

 

Typical political / Public Sector - ignore the elephant and clumsily attempt to find elephant food to stop the elephant stomping the place up then complain because there isn't enough elephant food. Then claim the problem is racism rather than lack of elephant food or too many elephants.

 

There would be no NEED for a migration mitigation fund if the migration issue was properly addressed!