Making the news today....

[felixthelogchopper]

1 minute ago, Khriss said:

Mate. Try to keep up. They  been killing each other in Colchester since Roman times..... K

Go Team Trinovantes!

[Khriss]

'Put em to the sword I say' Come over here with their ' Letter of St Paul to the Corinthians' wot...... I was on nightshift. St Paul the 'oh yea that road to Damascus' bollocks. Try earning a crust instead of turning it into the 'body of christ'... You couldnt make it up could you? K

[Khriss]

12 minutes ago, EdwardC said:

They've been making it up for the last 2000 years.

Wotch it mate.... Or its the Inquisition... 

 

 

 

K

[Stere]

Assad with & Russia (also Iran?) backing just done a deal witht the Kurds to  help fight Turkey.

 

 

 

Syrian Army units and units of Russian forces begin deploying on Al-Sajour line linking Manbij to Jarablus city. Explore Syrian Civil War news on live map in English. Civil war and International intervention in Syria. War on terrorism in Syria

SYRIA.LIVEUAMAP.COM

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Syrian Army units and units of Russian forces begin deploying on Al-Sajour line linking Manbij to Jarablus city. Explore...

 

So Russia will be fighting troops of a NATO country that it also  supplied weapons systems to jusr recently:

 

Turkey Gets Shipment of Russian Missile System, Defying U.S. - The New York Times

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The purchase of the sophisticated S-400 antiaircraft equipment was fiercely opposed by NATO and by...

 

Really getting crazy

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

As if the arrogance of ‘today’ needed any reminders from history of the inevitable failure of an organisation when it pursues expansion into social, cultural, political, religious domains which are so obviously at odds with the original concepts. The ascension of Turkey & Greece into NATO (in response to short term political threats) despite the obvious historic, political and geographic ineligibilities, and the entirely foreseeable clusterfuck which is unravelling, is a timely a wake up call for Brexit and the EU as ever might be needed. 
 

But still the ostriches thrust their heads deeper into the ground. 

[Stere]

Turkry have being NATO members since 1952.

 

Suppose NATO defensive pact only kicks in if Turkey was invaded proxy wars  are ok.

 

 

 

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

5 minutes ago, Stere said:

Turkry have being NATO members since 1952

Quite. 
 

Relatively recent and, as is now unfolding, probably more trouble than it was worth. 
 

Now make the quantum leap forward to Turkey aspiration to join EU and EU desire for ever greater expansion. 
 

Anyone see any potential lessons that could be learned from recent (and more distant) history?

[Khriss]

27 minutes ago, Stere said:

Turkry have being NATO members since 1952.

 

Suppose NATO defensive pact only kicks in if Turkey was invaded proxy wars  are ok.

 

 

 

 

NATO will only 'fight' when it can win. Hence no war with Russia. Am pretty sure US pull out was carefully analysed and scheduled. Turkey has a problem now cos we ain't allowing them access to new jet fighter stuff cos of their 'lil missile purchase' K

[TIMON]

Meanwhile back home.......

[Mark J]

7 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Quite. 
 

Relatively recent and, as is now unfolding, probably more trouble than it was worth. 
 

Now make the quantum leap forward to Turkey aspiration to join EU and EU desire for ever greater expansion. 
 

Anyone see any potential lessons that could be learned from recent (and more distant) history?

All those radge ISIS fascist scumbags, freed by Turkey and on the way to town near you.
The Kurds sold out by 'partners' once again. It's canny shameful.

Edited October 14, 2019 by Mark J