Making the news today....

[Mark J]

GCHQ know everything...

 

If that's the case, it makes them a pure bunch of

 

If they knew everything, this and other attacks could have been prevented.

[gooseflight]

For sure someone, somewhere needs to wake up to what is happening in our country. How did we get to the position where people can't attend an event or walk down a city street without a twinge of fear.

 

Invariably these people are known to the authorities. Surely when a person of interest travels to Libya "to visit his parents" a light should go on.

 

We should chip the b@stards. As is often said, we know more about the whereabouts of a cow than a criminal.

 

On R4 this lunchtime there was a clip of a phone answering machine at a Manchester mosque. The loop included, "for Sharia enquiries key ...". No. Stop right there. There is one legal system in England and it applies to everyone.

 

Follow your own religion if you must but if you want to live here, swim in the same stream.

Edited May 24, 2017 by gooseflight

[matelot]

If that's the case, it makes them a pure bunch of

 

If they knew everything, this and other attacks could have been prevented.

 

The problem is there are circa 3,000 extremists in the UK. However, you don't know which one will go on a killing spree. Our justice system is based on sending people to court for what they have done and not what they might do.

 

This Salman guy probably watched a lot of extremist stuff online and emailed a lot of other extremists. He probably also went on a lot of extremist marches. I bet he also googled "how to make a bomb". It's all stuff that indicates he's an extremist however it's not stuff that would convince a jury.

 

I think we will have to lower the burden of proof to convict extremists. I also think we will have to stop "trial by jury"...

 

It's a moral question, do you lock up 3,000 extremists because you know some of them are going to commit terrorist offences?

[eggsarascal]

What if his parent's were born here, where would they get deported to?

 

Mull.

[matelot]

Mull.

 

lol

[Yournamehere]

... I also think we will have to stop "trial by jury"...

 

What could go wrong?

What could go wrong?

[matelot]

What could go wrong?

What could go wrong?

 

You're right, it's not an ideal situation. However what option do we have? Just hold hands and watch politicians make speeches about "unity" as the remains of twenty kids are scraped from the walls?

 

The Israeli justice system requires no trial by jury.

 

They arrest potential terrorists and put them in jail. No trial required.

[eggsarascal]

lol

 

I've no doubt he will 'bank' that one and give me a kicking for it later.

[TIMON]

The Israeli's do something similar to the family of suicide bombers.....

 

 

There's a lot we could learn from the Israeli's, the luvvies and the lefties would love that though! [emoji41]

 

 

Timon.

[Gary Prentice]

 

 

 

Follow your own religion if you must but if you want to live here, swim in the same stream.

 

We'll eventually bow down and bow down and make it their stream, you watch.