Making the news today....

[roboted]

11 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Well, we need to start somewhere, why not lead by example?

Fair point.....But this message needs to reach out a whole lot further than Europe. If it doesn't then it becomes kind of pointless. I reiterate China, India et all.

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, roboted said:

Fair point.....But this message needs to reach out a whole lot further than Europe. If it doesn't then it becomes kind of pointless. I reiterate China, India et all.

I agree that it needs more countries to participate in order to make more of a difference. Either way, we should be looking after our environment.

Would it be so bad to curtail our emissions and prioritise renewable energy etc., even if America, China et al didn't initially follow suit?
At least we'd have a nicer place to live in, while we watch the next generations starve of oxygen and/or die of thirst.

Edited April 27, 2019 by Mark J

[roboted]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

I agree that it needs more countries to participate in order to make more of a difference. Either way, we should be looking after our environment. 

Yep

Would it be so bad to curtail our emissions and prioritise renewable energy etc., even if America, China et al didn't initially follow suit?

Nope
At least we'd have a nicer place to live in, while we watch the next generations starve of oxygen and/or die of thirst.

That's the sad bit.

Replied on quote. Have a good evening Sir. ?

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, roboted said:

Replied on quote. Have a good evening Sir. ?

And you mate.

[Woodworks]

2 hours ago, roboted said:

Fair point.....But this message needs to reach out a whole lot further than Europe. If it doesn't then it becomes kind of pointless. I reiterate China, India et all.

Per capita, China is little worse than us and they are a major manufacturer which bumps up countries CO2 output. Also, they installing renewables at a far higher rate than most https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/10296/economics/top-co2-polluters-highest-per-capita/?fbclid=IwAR1vbrRwnJvnPTDTT7lsKR_LVkasQ68JqB2ZSjkeuPj6CXASKwq-kFvGQS0

 

Image result for CO2 per capita.webloc

Edited April 27, 2019 by Woodworks

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Mmmmm, and maybe if carbon footprint was attributed to point of consumption rather than point of manufacture we’d have a more accurate (and uncomfortable) appreciation of the source of the problem....

[Woodworks]

7 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Mmmmm, and maybe if carbon footprint was attributed to point of consumption rather than point of manufacture we’d have a more accurate (and uncomfortable) appreciation of the source of the problem....

These numbers are all a bit of a fudge. Again credit goes to Greta for outing some creative numbers https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48025650

[Mark J]

21 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Mmmmm, and maybe if carbon footprint was attributed to point of consumption rather than point of manufacture we’d have a more accurate (and uncomfortable) appreciation of the source of the problem....

Aye, those muckle boats burn a stupid amount of fuel.
Even so, little steps:



I think we all need to go as green as we can while keeping one foot in the reality bucket.

I'm sure if we got our heads together we could sort things out and still have time for macho stuff.

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/cargo-container-shipping-carbon-pollution/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/24/worlds-first-electric-container-barges-to-sail-from-european-ports-this-summer

[teepeeat]

5 hours ago, Mark J said:

Aye, those muckle boats burn a stupid amount of fuel.
Even so, little steps:



I think we all need to go as green as we can while keeping one foot in the reality bucket.

I'm sure if we got our heads together we could sort things out and still have time for macho stuff.

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/cargo-container-shipping-carbon-pollution/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/24/worlds-first-electric-container-barges-to-sail-from-european-ports-this-summer

Sadly its going to be a long time before this sort of thing moves out of the canals & onto the high seas. 

As for the big box boats - until the demand to ship 'stuff' around the world drops significantly these will continue to ply their trade. Most of the crap they have on board is only there because people have been persuaded by some marketing types hired by someone who wants to make loadsa money that we absolutely must have it, when we really need very little of it at all and what we do need is probably as easily provided locally.

[forestboy1978]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8956117/top-ukip-candidate-says-its-ok-to-rape-young-boys-in-sick-youtube-rant/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1556442160

 

Utterly disgusted with the lengths and depths the media will now go to outright lying about people who don't fit their narrative.

 

I'd find that journalist and beat him half to death and do the time gladly if that were me. 

Edited April 28, 2019 by forestboy1978