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[breffni]

12 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I dont agree with anti-vaxxers on the whole. But I think we're on another slippery slope as to what we have a say on what goes into our bodies. The push now is to ban anyone who does not agree to be injected with a cocktail of chemicals from School, flying, whole countries etc etc. So where dos this stop? 

 

Personally I dont think Chicken Pox is that bad a thing. We've all had it. A lot of our parents used to host Measles and Chicken Pox parties after all.  

 

But the Chicken Pox vaccine contains aborted fetus. Surely we can make an informed choice not to inject ourselves with what many feel is a murdered human being? I for one would not like to have this forced on me. Yet people who make a conscious or religions decisions not to do so are being persecuted and excluded. Where do we draw the line?

The chicken pox vaccine isnt part of the normal vaccine. Where did you read it contains aborted fetus??? 

As i understand it the viruses were grown on aborted fetal tissue back in the 60's and since then have been growing on their own on the laboratory since then.

If you dont vaccinate your children for MMR you shouldnt be allowed send them to school. Why risk everyone elses health because a few loons believe thoroughly discredited information? 

Edited March 23, 2019 by breffni

[Mark J]

33 minutes ago, breffni said:

The chicken pox vaccine isnt part of the normal vaccine. Where did you read it contains aborted fetus??? 

As i understand it the viruses were grown on aborted fetal tissue back in the 60's and since then have been growing on their own on the laboratory since then.

If you dont vaccinate your children for MMR you shouldnt be allowed send them to school. Why risk everyone elses health because a few loons believe thoroughly discredited information? 

That's what a fair few diabetics are thinking when it comes to Brexit.

I agree fully. Vaccines work.

You can grow anything from anything these days. You can freeze a piece of monkey bollock, whack it back in after they've been radiated and create more monkeys: https://news.sky.com/story/monkey-born-from-frozen-testicular-tissue-offers-fertility-hope-to-young-cancer-patients-11672574
 

Stem Cells are where it's at. What a time to be alive.

Edited March 23, 2019 by Mark J

[trigger_andy]

1 hour ago, breffni said:

The chicken pox vaccine isnt part of the normal vaccine. Where did you read it contains aborted fetus??? 

Id have to look it up and to be honest what difference does it matter? My point being we heading in a direction where we no longer have controls of our own bodies. We're heading further down a road where we have to take mandated government authorized injections and the implications there are very worrisome. Where will it end? 

 

All my kids have the MMR jags, thats not an issue for me. Its the bigger picture and I fear many either dont care of are incapable of seeing where this leads.  

[the village idiot]

11 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Its the bigger picture and I fear many either dont care of are incapable of seeing where this leads

Where do you see it leading?

[trigger_andy]

7 minutes ago, the village idiot said:

Where do you see it leading?

 

When we have a loss of control of what the government can do to our bodies or be forced out of society I feel that has very heavy implications.

[the village idiot]

3 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

 

When we have a loss of control of what the government can do to our bodies or be forced out of society I feel that has very heavy implications.

They are just trying to stop children and adults dying from easily preventable diseases.

 

To spin this as some sort of first step to sinister practices seems unduly paranoid.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, the village idiot said:

They are just trying to stop children and adults dying from easily preventable diseases.

 

To spin this as some sort of first step to sinister practices seems unduly paranoid.

Well I cant argue there. But when the precedent is set, and the public happily go along with it going further is so much easier. 

 

As I said my kids are vaccinated. Im not anti-vaxx. Im vaccinated to the bloody hilt. My Medical Booklet for working over-sea's in such places as West Africa is full to the brim. I have no issue with unvaccinated kids. Because if they are carriers my kids will be fine, because they are vaccinated. But I do feel it should be a choice what we inject into our bodies. And if its the case that aborted human fetuses are included in some injections I sure as hell would not be comfortable taking them and feel it should not be forced. 

 

 

[Vespasian]

A couple of months back a local Councillor I know posted some anti vaccine crap up about the flue vaccine casing autism..

 

I asked her to post a link to the site that proved that was true, I got a site full of absolute tosh full of conspiracy theories and quack medical advice..  one of which explaining a fruit only diet to beat cancer..   

 

Ah that explains it I thought..  I sub to the chipper guy on utube, a couple of yrs back his wife got cancer and she wanted to beat it her way.. the camera panning to a bowl of fruit.   died a yr later..

 

 

Mu own opinion is that these vaccines do have a reaction on a handful of people out of every million vaccinated.   what can you do, tell that to the general public and everyone will imagine its their child its gonna happen to.   best to say nothing and get as many people vaccinated as possible for the greater good..

[the village idiot]

13 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

And if its the case that aborted human fetuses are included in some injections I sure as hell would not be comfortable taking them and feel it should not be forced. 

Like breffni said, the original stem cells were taken from an aborted foetus decades ago. They have since been cultured from these originals in labs.

 

Foetus' are not aborted in order to obtain ingredients for vaccines.

 

You have to see them for what they are. Cells. You are imbibing other humans' cells every breath you take.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, the village idiot said:

Like breffni said, the original stem cells were taken from an aborted foetus decades ago. They have since been cultured from these originals in labs.

 

Foetus' are not aborted in order to obtain ingredients for vaccines.

 

You have to see them for what they are. Cells. You are imbibing other humans' cells every breath you take.

Yes I know. It still does not sit well with me at all. Yet I have the vaccines it has produced, albeit unknowingly. Would I take them now had I not had them? I guess I would, so I could work in the field in which I do as its a requirement. But I dont feel people should be forced to have them if it going against their beliefs and moral compass. 

 

I dont have to see them for just being cells, that is a personal view point and one I dont particularly share. That last comment was retarded, Ill not even go into that.