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[5thelement]

11 minutes ago, AHPP said:

I’ve already paid for the ones strapped to a policeman though. 

But he has it, he has been trained to use it, he is on high alert, he probably isn’t on his own, and he isn’t going to give it to you that easily. 
 

[5thelement]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

The 1930s German government disarmed jews. The 1940s German government pushed them onto trains then gassed them to death.

Why didn’t the Jews just run armed 1940’s Germans down with their cars and steal their weapons?

[Mark Bolam]

Duh, petrol rationing?

[5thelement]

57 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Duh, petrol rationing?

Not until 1944 with the Red Army at the door. 

[Mark Bolam]

I know.

I was joking.

 

I didn’t fight in two world wars for nothing.

[sime42]

11 hours ago, Squaredy said:

To be fair Reform are setting the agenda despite having only a handful of seats, so they do indeed get a lot of airtime as they have huge influence.  

 

 

 

That was the defence given by someone at the BBC I heard when challenged about the disproportionate amount of airtime given over to Reform. It doesn't stack up to me. Chicken and Egg scenario I think. They could if they chose, by giving them a lot of airtime, help Green or Orange to set the agenda, to be influencers. I suspect that they wouldn't align with Robbie Gibb's views though.

Are you sure Reform are really setting the agenda, or just responding to the agenda? They're just a symptom of the wider problems in truth. I believe that it's more likely that the media, (traditional and socials), backed by big tech and big money, are the actual agender setters. Did you not see the recent piece of Grok disinformation? It was a perfect example.  

[AHPP]

8 hours ago, 5thelement said:

The Liverpool parade attacker has been sentenced to 15 years plus 5 on licence for ploughing into the crowds in his car. 

He deliberately hit a total of 130 people, leaving some with life changing injuries, there were 31 charges in total.

 

 

[AHPP]

12 hours ago, markieg31 said:

Well we haven't had any mass shootings since.

 

Just loads of individual ones. And loads of other individual offences that could have been deterred by the possibility of armed opposition or thwarted by actual armed opposition. 

[AHPP]

10 hours ago, sime42 said:

Hard to fathom how they were allowed to carry on shooting for at least 10 minutes without an adequate police response. 

 

8 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

On the face of it yes.

But consider they were heavily armed, with no intention of escape or capture, they had selected a easily defendable raised base, practically a concrete stockade, with views over all approaches.

 

A sniper in the flats from where we saw the videos would have taken them out easily enough, but how long to set that up?

 

Interested in the thoughts of ex military on this question.

 

It's not a surprise nor unreasonable that the coppers couldn't get there and fix it in under x minutes. There aren't many of them, cities are big and congested; it takes time to go places and time to make sure they're not being ambushed on the way in etc (remember the policewoman in Machester who got lured into a grenade attack). The problem is the authorities know this but prevent people from defending themselves anyway. They assume the individual's right to self-defence on the basis that they will use that right and power instead, to do for the individual what they would have ordinarily done for themselves. Then they don't keep up their end of the bargain. It's a failed short-sell. They borrow more than they can pay back. They're a shepherd who tethers his stock and goes to bed rather than watch them. He knows he can't stay awake all night and that if a wolf comes, he can't do much. But he still prevents them saving themselves.

[AHPP]

6 hours ago, 5thelement said:

Why didn’t the Jews just run armed 1940’s Germans down with their cars and steal their weapons?

 

Good question. Don't know.