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[Squaredy]

If anyone still thinks our judiciary and tribunal process are sane they need to look at the tribunal decision for the nurse in Fife (Sandie Peggy).  If you don’t know the case she was disciplined for objecting to a man in the female changing rooms at work.

 

The judgement stated that there is no evidence that a man in a woman’s only space is any more of a threat to a woman than a woman would be.

 

Here is a verbatim quote “In our view, having read all the documents, there is very far from sufficient reliable evidence to establish as a fact that a trans woman who is legally and biologically male is a greater risk to any person assigned female at birth within a changing-room environment at a workplace than another woman assigned female at birth”

 

What planet do they live on?

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, Squaredy said:

If anyone still thinks our judiciary and tribunal process are sane they need to look at the tribunal decision for the nurse in Fife (Sandie Peggy).  If you don’t know the case she was disciplined for objecting to a man in the female changing rooms at work.

 

The judgement stated that there is no evidence that a man in a woman’s only space is any more of a threat to a woman than a woman would be.

 

Here is a verbatim quote “In our view, having read all the documents, there is very far from sufficient reliable evidence to establish as a fact that a trans woman who is legally and biologically male is a greater risk to any person assigned female at birth within a changing-room environment at a workplace than another woman assigned female at birth”

 

What planet do they live on?

Watched all this crap up in Scotland for years now, Sturgeon and the Greens were mad for it. Pure lunacy and anyone supporting it should be seeking help. 

[sime42]

On 10/12/2025 at 16:57, openspaceman said:

The whole series is being published now and I will even watch Chris Packam's effort.

 

Only 82 MPs attended which is a shame but entirely expected.

 

 

There's a syndrome about populations living under threats like volcanoes coping by ignoring the inevitable. We are like that now. The thing is it's now too late to avert these problems and it was because long dead politicians and dictators didn't take precautions, because the poor aspire to have their share of what the rich have had and the rich won't retrench because they are enjoying what they already have and want more. We have pickled the planet in our effluent.

 

We knew we couldn't rely on fossil fuels beyond a few more generations, and then came  the problem from the surge in use of the atmosphere to dump the consequential CO2,  but resisted change for all my 3/4 of a century.

 

Well, anyone seeking solace wouldn't find much in there! Not that I disagree with any of it. Though I would add that today's and the not so long dead politicians and dictators should be shouldering more of the blame. The long dead ones might have known that there was a problem, but they couldn't have known quite how grave a problem it was going to be. They knew nothing in comparison to what today's lot know but choose to ignore. 

 

Is it really too late though? That's a bleak outlook. Surely it's worth striving to make the eventual outcome even slightly less bad.

 

Chris Packham. I'm in two minds about the bloke. I like the message but not so much the messenger. He's a bit much, but I'm grateful he's doing what he's doing. 

 

 

[sime42]

On 10/12/2025 at 17:16, Mark J said:

UN environment report 'hijacked' over fossil fuels - top scientist

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The US and other governments derailed an agreement on a global environment study, its co-chair says.

 

 

https://unfccc.int/about-us/reports-highlights/quarterly-updates/un-climate-change-quarterly-update-q1-2025-0

 

Thanks The Donald.

I saw that, but I was going to put it in the Potus thread. 

[Mark J]

37 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Thanks The Donald.

I saw that, but I was going to put it in the Potus thread. 

It doesn't matter where you put it. The same people who have fallen for the emperor with new clothes will still do what they can to belittle it, as they know that their horse is losing.
 

I said a while back that we're looking at West Streeting, and JD Vance as leaders in the interim. They're both part of Bildeberg, and both very much part of Peter Thiel's team.
 

Make of that what you will. 

[sime42]

19 minutes ago, Mark J said:

It doesn't matter where you put it. The same people who have fallen for the emperor with new clothes will still do what they can to belittle it, as they know that their horse is losing.
 

I said a while back that we're looking at West Streeting, and JD Vance as leaders in the interim. They're both part of Bildeberg, and both very much part of Peter Thiel's team.
 

Make of that what you will. 

 

Yep, I don't trust that Wes Streeting bloke much at all. I reckon he'll turn out to be even worse than Kier Starmer. Talking of cloths, they're both smurfs who've stolen Elmo's cloths.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mark J]

16 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Yep, I don't trust that Wes Streeting bloke much at all. I reckon he'll turn out to be even worse than Kier Starmer. Talking of cloths, they're both smurfs who've stolen Elmo's cloths.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The margin for Brexit was just shy of 2m people. 5m people who voted for Brexit were old and have since died. Given another referendum, I imagine we'd rejoin the EU. Then buy some guns to keep Rambo happy. 

 

I have a feeling that Kier Starmer was put in place to quell Corbyn and leave the way open for Streeting. Unfounded conjecture, but my thoughts, nonetheless.

 

Edited 10 minutes ago by Mark J

[sime42]

On 10/12/2025 at 16:57, openspaceman said:

.............

 

We knew we couldn't rely on fossil fuels beyond a few more generations, and then came  the problem from the surge in use of the atmosphere to dump the consequential CO2,  but resisted change for all my 3/4 of a century.

 

However, there is yet hope.

 

Economic growth no longer linked to carbon emissions in most of the world, study finds | Fossil fuels | The Guardian

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

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Analysis marking 10 years since Paris climate agreement underscores effectiveness of strong government...

 

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, Mark J said:

It doesn't matter where you put it. The same people who have fallen for the emperor with new clothes will still do what they can to belittle it, as they know that their horse is losing.
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It looks like the horse of the fallen people is indeed losing. 

 

10 Years Post-Paris: How emissions decoupling has progressed

ECIU.NET

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Global CO2 emissions are still rising, but this masks a striking shift beneath the surface: a growing share of the world...

 

 

 

[Steven P]

14 minutes ago, Mark J said:

The margin for Brexit was just shy of 2m people. 5m people who voted for Brexit were old and have since died. Given another referendum, I imagine we'd rejoin the EU. Then buy some guns to keep Rambo happy.

 

Yes, I saw that last night somewhere.

Roughly 50-50 vote, the old voted 60-40 for Brexit, the young the other way, 40-60, balanced out with a tiny majority to Brexit. 5 million old people died, 5 million young people are able to vote now gives a theoretical remain majority of about 4 million if the vote was now - assuming those who have changed their minds either way balanced each other out. Considering that the young will inherit and want to be a part of the EU we should pay attention perhaps to this.