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3 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

Have you done any reading, which example do you choose?

 

So Brazil are leading the field currently, in commitment to renewable energy sources. That was a surprise to me, probably not to you though. China ain't doing bad either, they're up there in the pelaton. We're not even on the board, the UK definitely has work to do. 

 

 

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Renewables include solar, wind, hydropower, bioenergy, geothermal, wave, and tidal sources.

 

 

 

You sure about those numbers ??. 

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13 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

You sure about those numbers ??. 

 

No, not entirely, as I've not personally done the calcs. I do however have no reason to think that they're fabricated. Dot.Org sites are generally pretty trustworthy, being non-profit organisations and all that. Obviously I'd need to see a James Garvey post on LinxedIn to fully trust the figures.

 

Interested to hear about your counter argument though. Have you got some insider information to share, some "alternative facts"? Which country is actually leading the charge when it comes to commitment to renewable energy sources? Don't tell me it's Pakistan or something!

 

 

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1 hour ago, sime42 said:

 

No, not entirely, as I've not personally done the calcs. I do however have no reason to think that they're fabricated. Dot.Org sites are generally pretty trustworthy, being non-profit organisations and all that. Obviously I'd need to see a James Garvey post on LinxedIn to fully trust the figures.

 

Interested to hear about your counter argument though. Have you got some insider information to share, some "alternative facts"? Which country is actually leading the charge when it comes to commitment to renewable energy sources? Don't tell me it's Pakistan or something!

 

 

The figures are out there, very easy to find and substantially higher than the numbers you quoted, mind you they come at an astronomical cost to UK households and businesses. There is often a disparity between production and consumption mind. You ever take a break from being a condescending prick 42 ??,  somewhat like the office blagger you seem to think relentlessly misspelling people’s names or ridiculing an information source is an effective way to put your point over. 
Strange behaviour from someone who is obviously not stupid. How’s the rat/bin situation by the way. 

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6 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

Have you done any reading, which example do you choose?

 

So Brazil are leading the field currently, in commitment to renewable energy sources. That was a surprise to me, probably not to you though. China ain't doing bad either, they're up there in the pelaton. We're not even on the board, the UK definitely has work to do. 

 

 

OURWORLDINDATA.ORG

Renewables include solar, wind, hydropower, bioenergy, geothermal, wave, and tidal sources.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Johnsond said:

You sure about those numbers ??. 

 

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

The figures are out there, very easy to find and substantially higher than the numbers you quoted, mind you they come at an astronomical cost to UK households and businesses. There is often a disparity between production and consumption mind. You ever take a break from being a condescending prick 42 ??,  somewhat like the office blagger you seem to think relentlessly misspelling people’s names or ridiculing an information source is an effective way to put your point over. 
Strange behaviour from someone who is obviously not stupid. How’s the rat/bin situation by the way. 

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42s Our World in Data link does show the UK if you type it in the search and the figure matches that in the bottom of of the above search screenshot - 51% ~ 50.8% . Even James Harvey would be happy.

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however, even though the Our World In Data checks out - agreeing with johnsond's search screenshot figure of 50.8% UK electricity from renewables (in that year) BOTH sources are wrong. Why? Because they include biomass in renewables. What a con that is. Can't see how we get 7% credit to our renewables target for shipping in wood and burning it. Burning trees is an impatient way of burning oil - both release carbon dioxide to form an insulating layer in the upper atmosphere.

  • Carbon Payback Period: 
    It takes a long time for new trees to grow and reabsorb the carbon emitted from burning older trees. This means that burning biomass can contribute to warming for decades or even centuries before a "payback" occurs. 
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18 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

however, even though the Our World In Data checks out - agreeing with johnsond's search screenshot figure of 50.8% UK electricity from renewables (in that year) BOTH sources are wrong. Why? Because they include biomass in renewables. What a con that is. Can't see how we get 7% credit to our renewables target for shipping in wood and burning it. Burning trees is an impatient way of burning oil - both release carbon dioxide to form an insulating layer in the upper atmosphere.

  • Carbon Payback Period: 
    It takes a long time for new trees to grow and reabsorb the carbon emitted from burning older trees. This means that burning biomass can contribute to warming for decades or even centuries before a "payback" occurs. 

The whole renewables game is a cash cow for predominantly foreign based companies, I agree with the biomass comment, I’ve mentioned it on more than one occasion. 

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