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[Big J]

9 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

All you ever do is talk the country down, you are an incredibly negative person. I don't recognise the picture you paint. I've never been busier or charged more.

 

I lived through interest rates at 15%, I don't see that returning, regardless of the inflation rate.

 

I really don't know why you keep bleating on and saying "we" I thought you were leaving?

 

Recognising the negative attributes of a country doesn't make me a negative person. Anyone who thinks that this country is on it's way to bigger and better things is deluded. The UK is an overcrowded, overendebted, massively unequal, xenophobic shadow of it's former self.

 

I'm active on a few wild swimming groups, one in Scotland, one here in Devon. A really common theme (especially in Scotland) is huge numbers of people coming to these beauty spots and absolutely trashing them. Leaving broken bottles, disposable barbecues, used nappies, human excrement, general waste in stunning natural location to the scale that some of the swimmers from these groups are routinely returning with big bags of litter on every single visit. Does that sound like we have the kind of people in this country that will improve our general situation? There is a total lack of respect in the country from a significant proportion of the population. That lack of respect extends to all walks of life.

 

I feel extremely relieved to be leaving, but sad that it's only by accident of birth that it's still a simple option for me.  

[skyhuck]

9 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

Recognising the negative attributes of a country doesn't make me a negative person. Anyone who thinks that this country is on it's way to bigger and better things is deluded. The UK is an overcrowded, overendebted, massively unequal, xenophobic shadow of it's former self.

 

I'm active on a few wild swimming groups, one in Scotland, one here in Devon. A really common theme (especially in Scotland) is huge numbers of people coming to these beauty spots and absolutely trashing them. Leaving broken bottles, disposable barbecues, used nappies, human excrement, general waste in stunning natural location to the scale that some of the swimmers from these groups are routinely returning with big bags of litter on every single visit. Does that sound like we have the kind of people in this country that will improve our general situation? There is a total lack of respect in the country from a significant proportion of the population. That lack of respect extends to all walks of life.

 

I feel extremely relieved to be leaving, but sad that it's only by accident of birth that it's still a simple option for me.  

Like I said, you're a very negative guy.

 

Sure there are plenty a scruffy scum, which is where you focus your attention, but what about the ones collecting other peoples crap? They are the people I see. Good decent people, going above and beyond.

 

What about all those people who gave you money when your dog was sick.

[Big J]

Just now, skyhuck said:

Like I said, you're a very negative guy.

 

Sure there are plenty a scruffy scum, which is where you focus your attention, but what about the ones collecting other peoples crap? They are the people I see. Good decent people, going above and beyond.

 

I agree, good decent people, going above and beyond. Except that they shouldn't have to. 

 

Have you ever been to another European country that litters like we do? I scarcely saw a single bit of litter in Sweden earlier in the month. Swimming spots where 500-1000 people were using them on a daily basis and you'd not have filled a carrier bag with litter in a week of litter picking there. 

 

And then the Falls of Falloch in Scotland get left like this on a daily basis:

 

Don't get me wrong, the UK has a lot of wonderful people. Some of the best people you'd ever meet. But they are unfortunately somewhat outnumbered by people that just don't give a shit. 

[skyhuck]

13 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

I agree, good decent people, going above and beyond. Except that they shouldn't have to. 

 

Have you ever been to another European country that litters like we do? I scarcely saw a single bit of litter in Sweden earlier in the month. Swimming spots where 500-1000 people were using them on a daily basis and you'd not have filled a carrier bag with litter in a week of litter picking there. 

 

And then the Falls of Falloch in Scotland get left like this on a daily basis:

 

Don't get me wrong, the UK has a lot of wonderful people. Some of the best people you'd ever meet. But they are unfortunately somewhat outnumbered by people that just don't give a shit. 

IMO, the good vastly outnumber the bad, its just that often they are more visible.

[Big J]

4 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

IMO, the good vastly outnumber the bad, its just that often the are more visible.

 

I'm happy for you that you feel that way. It's not the way that I feel and I feel that a future here for me and my family is a bleak prospect, whether that be in cultural, economic, educational, social or health terms.

[skyhuck]

5 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

I'm happy for you that you feel that way. It's not the way that I feel and I feel that a future here for me and my family is a bleak prospect, whether that be in cultural, economic, educational, social or health terms.

It will be fascinating to see how happy you are in a few years time in Sweden. 

[Big J]

4 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

It will be fascinating to see how happy you are in a few years time in Sweden. 

There are no guarantees obviously but almost anything is better than here.

[eggsarascal]

6 minutes ago, Big J said:

There are no guarantees obviously but almost anything is better than here.

I've a brother who says this all the time, he's back in the UK for now.

[skyhuck]

12 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I've a brother who says this all the time, he's back in the UK for now.

Chasing happiness is a trap.

 

Happiness is state of mind.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

The shitshow that is the state of the economy emerging from the covid pandemic would tend to agree with me

Whilst I don’t favour “economic growth” / GDP as a measure of a nation’s well being, and whilst I do share your forecast of an inflationary rise, I’m not entirely sure your assessment of shitshow is shared by all of the economic analysts. 
 

But.....  If it turns out that there ISN’T an economic shitshow post Brexit / Covid, is there any possibility you might stop moaning about f*cking Brexit.....?