Making the news today....

[eggsarascal]

4 minutes ago, forestboy1978 said:

Not at all. You're taking a flippant general comment and magnifying its specificity to gain some kind of moral high ground. 

 

4 minutes ago, forestboy1978 said:

Not at all. You're taking a flippant general comment and magnifying its specificity to gain some kind of moral high ground. 

What you said was "fake news", then?

[forestboy1978]

3 minutes ago, Mark J said:

No, you're just overreacting.

OK, I'll take you on your word for that then. Despite our differences of opinion you seem earnest. 

[forestboy1978]

1 minute ago, eggsarascal said:

 

What you said was "fake news", then?

No. I do think a lot on the left are raving lunatics. But not all. I very much admire Stephen Fry as an example. 

[Mark J]

4 minutes ago, forestboy1978 said:

No. I do think a lot on the left are raving lunatics. But not all. I very much admire Stephen Fry as an example. 

I think this is the crux of the problem.  People have become too polarised. Most people want the same things. Enjoy yer Sunday Forestboy1978.

[eggsarascal]

1 minute ago, Mark J said:

I think this is the crux of the problem.  People have become too polarised. Most people want the same things. Enjoy yer Sunday Forestboy1978.

This just about hits the nail on the head. It's "all" the lefts fault, they can't see what harm the right are doing because they are obsessed with blaming the left.

 

I don't think those left of center are getting more left, I do think that those who were just right of center are getting further right. Take from that what you will.

[eggsarascal]

Steve Bannon sums it up nicely.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaajidNawaz?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

 

 

[Saw-sick Steve]

Not a fan of the orange buffoon by any means, but it's difficult to entirely rebuff the charges of hypocrisy levelled at 'the Left' after the recent anti-Trump protests. Like it or not he's the democratically elected President of the USA and, though open to legitimate criticism over many of his policy decisions, his actions pale into insignificance compared to those carried out by leaders of certain other regimes who seem to get a free pass from the permanently outraged - despite being responsible for some truly heinous crimes.

           Where were these people when Mohammed bin Salman - head, lest we forget, of a regime responsible for beheading over 40 people so far this year - was here in March? Where were the protests when Erdogan - a man who, amongst other crimes, has classed journalists as ''terrorists'' and had them imprisoned - was here for a state visit last month? Or does murdering Yemeni and Kurdish citizens rank lower on the scale of outrage than wanting to ''grab them by the pussy''?  

[eggsarascal]

I wonder if Mr Trump will tell Putin where he's going wrong tomorrow.

[Yournamehere]

30 minutes ago, Saw-sick Steve said:

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           Where were these people when Mohammed bin Salman - head, lest we forget, of a regime responsible for beheading over 40 people so far this year - was here in March? Where were the protests when Erdogan - a man who, amongst other crimes, has classed journalists as ''terrorists'' and had them imprisoned - was here for a state visit last month? 

Erdogan Protest

 

M b Salmaan Protest

 

Two google searches, first two links.

 

Edit to remove unnecessarily inflammatory remarks

Edited July 15, 2018 by Yournamehere

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

4 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

They don't like it up 'em, do they.

No they don’t, neither ‘side’ seems to like it up’em ?

 

Listening to the Mayor of London referring to honest, decent, hard working, god fearing, pillars of the community as “extreme far right”, like they are some kind of terror organisation just because they oppose or offer a counter view to unrestricted immigration and wholescale social, economic and cultural change within the UK whilst on the AM show illustrates very well how intolerant of ‘the voice of the people’ some sections of the political classes can be. 

 

Personally, and as keeps being rolled out as the ‘reason’ for the Brexit vote (not that it was my principle reason, and I’d hestitate to grant much credibility to anyone who thinks they can interpret the reason for other people’s voting tendencies) if we are to believe that immigration was, in fact, the primary reason for the Brexit vote, then that view, by the majority vote, can, by definition, neither be extreme nor Right wing but rather that it is the majority, centre, opinion.