Making the news today....

[difflock]

Gents, to comment on the leftist or conservative political views.

In my opinion the names do not matter so much as the opportunist charismatic leaders who choose exploit political opportunity to gain power.

So when a nation is in the grip of right wing ruling parties, with perhaps some eletist excesses, there is the opportunity to offer communist type ideas as the salvation for the masses.

When a country gets too left wing, and the ruling Elite repeatedly ignore their voters or are failing economically, more right wing ideas can take root.

The bulk of the voting population are easily, too easily fooled or beguiled by the apparent appeal of fresh new ideas, oh, that and free money, for their tribe.

But, all in all, it effectively means the political posture of a nation tends to be like a massive slow moving pendulum, which once in motion, takes a long time to move, from left to right and back to the left, only briefly, on the way past, occupying the middle ground.

And the UK has went left/liberal as far as it, and the voting population, can be pushed and is now currently and  slowly but inexorably moving back towards the centre and heading on out towards the right.

Which swing, in time will be "corrected"

mthatter

 

Edited March 3, 2018 by difflock

[the village idiot]

7 minutes ago, difflock said:

Gents, to comment on the leftist or conservative political views.

In my opinion the names do not matter so much as the opportunist charismatic leaders who choose exploit political opportunity to gain power.

So when a nation is in the grip of right wing ruling parties, with perhaps some eletist excesses, there is the opportunity to offer communist type ideas as the salvation for the masses.

When a country gets too left wing, and the ruling Elite repeatedly ignore their voters or are failing economically, more right wing ideas can take root.

The bulk of the voting population are easily, too easily fooled or beguiled by the apparent appeal of fresh new ideas, oh, that and free money, for their tribe.

But, all in all, it effectively means the political posture of a nation tends to be like a massive slow moving pendulum, which once in motion, takes a long time to move, from left to right and back to the left, only briefly, on the way past, occupying the middle ground.

And the UK has went left/liberal as far as it, and the voting population, can be pushed and is now currently and  slowly but inexorably moving back towards the centre and heading on out towards the right.

Which swing, in time will be "corrected"

mthatter

 

I hope you're correct Marcus. I'm almost as afraid of the far left as I am the far right.

 

It would really help a lot if we could really listen and take on board what we are actually saying to one another. This habit of expressing people's views for them and putting them in a purely left or right box is a real road to nowhere.

 

I realise it makes for fun reading, but it it so flipin' frustrating.

[Mesterh]

47 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Bloody lucky break for the cameraman I'd say....  He even got the shadow of a Jihadi gunman hiding in the bushes 

If you look carefully you can just make out that it was actually Bob Heironimus.

 

 

 

The sun is obviously directly above hence the bigfoot arm, sun hat, bushes and child shadow and not at the left hence the shadow on the super imposed soldiers.

 

[Mesterh]

28 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

No wonder people are getting sick of mass immigration into Europe. I bet no government politicians or officials live in Lisdoonvarna: 

 

'Locals in Lisdoonvarna, Co Clare, who attended a public meeting this week, have voted overwhelmingly to reject Government plans to accommodate 115 asylum seekers in the town.'

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/lisdoonvarna-locals-reject-direct-provision-plan-1.3413201?mode=amp

 

 

According to Independent.ie the town has a population of 300. 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/lisdoonvarna-says-no-to-plan-for-115-asylum-seekers-to-move-into-town-36664275.html

 

'He said the 115 asylum seekers would increase the 300-strong population of Lisdoonvarna by 38pc'

 

Madness. 

 

You cant argue against that, who on earth thought it was a good idea?!

 

 

[the village idiot]

17 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

If you look carefully you can just make out that it was actually Bob Heironimus.

 

 

 

The sun is obviously directly above hence the bigfoot arm, sun hat, bushes and child shadow and not at the left hence the shadow on the super imposed soldiers.

 

Looks suspiciously like the beach landing scene from 'Saving Primate Ryan'

 

 

 

 

[breffni]

39 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

You cant argue against that, who on earth thought it was a good idea?!

 

 

Hardly going to happen as the residents are so against it. It also says in the article that they would welcome a smaller number.

[Mesterh]

Good, as it would be devastating for such a small community like that. It would be interesting to know who tried it on in the first place though and why? Im not against immigration but the above is ridiculous. It gives ammunition to those against immigration and installs doubt into those who think immigration is OK. A bad decision all around, there are some proper idiots about who do not deserve their payroll.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mull]

Think scotspine made that one up! The ‘reception and integration agency’ or for short the ‘RIA’[emoji848]

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, eggsarascal said:

Bloody hell! The young'un could have easily copped it......... If she was there.

Funny innit....

 

1 picture, reposted so many times, and still people seeing things they didn't see last time or seeing things so differently from others that are looking at the same picture...

 

 

[Khriss]

Says it all really - and picking facts to suit yr arguement  is blatantly poor debate.  Non of these issues have a simple answer and ignorance of the personal issues that each Doctor or Aid worker or Politicain  work under is just tabloid standard discourse, K