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[dan494]

When you think about it lots of laws exist to protect people. Speeding or being on your phone driving is to stop people potentially getting hurt or killed and those aren't premeditated. A magic book says kill the non believers and you're good to go until after the event? It's not consistent

 

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[skyhuck]

yes you can, a paedophile will get prison time for looking at photos? because might harm children. Quite rightly. why cant the same rule apply for looking at how to murder people and joining groups sworn to kill? I don't see a difference

 

You don't think looking at child porn is a crime in itself? What about the abused child in the image? Anyone looking at child porn is in part responsible for the abuse. Without demand there is no supply.

[skyhuck]

Aye, good analogy Dan.

 

Is that sarcasm?

[Duncansimpson]

Just think about it. Ten (?) kids have been killed, dozens of kids injured, hundreds of kids have seen horrificic sights.

 

 

 

Muslim complains about his daughter being called a "terrorist". Getting called a name is hardly comparable to being injured in a terrorist attack. There will have been people in the audience with family and friends injured in the attack.

 

 

 

If ever there has been a time for the Muslim community to shut up about islamaphobia this is it.

 

 

Is the death of 22 kids at Manchester any worse than the hundreds of kids killed by Israelis or the hundreds of innocent Syrian kids killed by Russian air strikes or American tomahawks. We reap what we sow.

We certainly need to be aware of who we let into this country because I'm certain these are all revenge attacks

[Mark Bolam]

Is that sarcasm?

 

It wasn't actually.

Of course looking at child porn is a crime, and a hideous one.

My take on Dan's comment was that reading literature on how to make bombs to kill people and joining groups whose professed aim is to kill us all should also be a crime worthy of incarceration or deportation.

[dan494]

That's my exact point and why I'm struggling to see the viewpoint of why it's ok to let these guys roam around

 

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[matelot]

A lot of people are saying that the Manchester bombing is a revenge attack for Britain's involvement in the Middle East. However extremist Islam would find an excuse to attack us no matter what we did in the Middle East.

 

Did the 26 Christians in Egypt killed in Egypt this morning have anything to do with Middle East diplomacy?

 

People in the West have got to start waking up.

[skyhuck]

That's my exact point and why I'm struggling to see the viewpoint of why it's ok to let these guys roam around

 

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I have no objection to them being rounded up and dealt with by due process. In fact I think it's well over due. But I do not and will never advocate punishment without trial are these not the very British values we are so keen to protect?

[Mark Bolam]

I think we're all on the same page here.

We need some law changes. Break them and suffer the consequences.

[dan494]

I have no objection to them being rounded up and dealt with by due process. In fact I think it's well over due. But I do not and will never advocate punishment without trial are these not the very British values we are so keen to protect?

I agree and won't say round up without reason I'm only saying in relation to other crimes like I've pointed out from perverts to speeding that in the interest of protecting people those crimes are dealt with proportionally. With people on a mission to kill they're left alone because of religion and they've not hurt anyone yet so leave them alone? Neither has a drunk driver? I'd argue the guys planning to bomb concerts or crash a plane into the twin towers are a hell of alot more dangerous but they're just watched for a bit

 

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