What do people pay?

[Chris Sheppard]

I'll only started up in June last year so taking someone on full time isn't an option just yet. He's a good grafter but no really climbing experience and he's no experience of rigging. He's a good friend who I can rely on but he has a limited skill set for that kind of money and for what I ask of him. I understand he's self employed too and he has costs to cover but I know I can't justify paying essentially a brash dragger that kind of money. I could bring a climber in on all my jobs for £120 a day and do the groundwork myself. Which I'm more than happy to do. I can manage the jobs and sites better from the ground.

 

Sounds like you already know what to do - I reckon you've already been more than fair with him considering.

[Eddiebell123]

If he is a good groundie who you have had working with you before and he gets on with the job until it's done and works hard can run ropes, good with a saw ect I would meet him in the middle. Give me a tenner more, good groundie are hard to come by

[IVECOKID]

£110 with his own saw .

 

 

Ste

[aspenarb]

I hate the generic wage concept, if our guys could keep their traps shut they would all have a different amount in their wage packets.

 

Bob

[Thesnarlingbadger]

IMO £125 is a lot to pay a groundsmen who has limited rigging experience and isn't a great climber. £100 a day is more than adequate. Down here in the southwest £125 is climber money.

But if he is a good friend like you say then maybe sling him an extra tenner.

[matelot]

tbh, I can see employing a friend causing a lot of aggro long term...

[10 Bears]

I understand he's self employed too

 

You are already paying over the odds, £100 is good money for his unskilled work - even if he's a really good grafter. I don't know his age obviously but for a benchmark, at £12.50 for an 8 hour day he is considerably over the minimum wage levels Minimum Wage 2016 rates UK

 

Just picking up on your "self-employed" comment. I don't want to derail this thread, but in a very short review, if he is under your direction in the workplace, reliant on you for the work, and essentially doesn't work independently, then for insurance and tax reasons, he is an employee.

 

Just advice, but mind that you have the right employers liability insurance in place...

[TTP]

£100 a day for a groundy with limited experience is more than fair. I'm a fairly competent climber with 6 working years experience. I live in the north west and charge £130 a day with saws (and if hedge work with trimmers) also charge the same for groundying but again I pull my weight and can work ropes well.

To me this guy sounds like a £100 a day man chancing being greedy. I'd explain to him what he's worth or find another groundy.

[Vespasian]

I don't want to comment on the value of his work, but it might be an idea to take stock of the value of his company...

 

Having someone who doesn't get on your nerves is worth all the tea in China..

[arbormonkey]

if its a top groundie with rigging experience etc 125 is fine but for a basic groundie I pay 70 and for my top climber 180.00