Farmers take milk off shelves at large supermarkets Re price of milk

[openspaceman]

 

At some point someone may just realise there's no sense subsidising an industry that is unable to achieve break-even.

 

Yep why grow your own food when there are lots of gung ho ruperts to go and secure our imports by killing some wiley oriental gentlemen.

[mendiplogs]

My uncle was a dairy farmer of a herd of 600. They all got sold last week at the market. I know he was getting 7p a litre for the last 18months. Dairy has been in the family for over 60 years and now we have none. It's a bad time for farmers. We may get subsidies and the rest but the last 5 years or so they haven't covered the price of feed we pay a year. We are having to sell our Heffers and store cattle younger to cover cost. All we want is a fair price for our produce. Just like selling logs no one sells logs at a loss. We don't wanna sell our beef sheep or milk at a loss. Fair price for farmers is all we want.

 

Hi mich that bad mate that thanks Jon

[easy-lift guy]

Having the farmers come into stores to presumably purchase all stores of product is pure folly. Price supports and quotas have not and will not ever work. Pretending there is no inflation and artificially supporting prices for the sake of one special interest group promotes and encourages crony capitalism at its worst. Allowing the free market to charge a profitable price and than in turn all levels of the market actually charging what it cost to produce the milk would be an eye opener for sure, however I am talking realville here and sadly on either side of the Atlantic economics is not taught any more. Better for the government to keep up appearances for the masses of asses, sadly.

easy-lift guy

[agrimog]

the big supermarkets sell milk and bread as loss leaders, have you ever noticed the dairy and bread cabinets are always at the backof the stores.....you have to walk past all the shiny bling in your face produce and this encorages you to buy more, the farmers have been screwed by the supermarkets for years, yes theyve got big shiny tractors, all the latest gear etc, but how many of you actually know that most farmers are actually living below the poverty level on wages, give the guys some support, yes cheap food is nice, but the guys producing it have to live as well, the only ones to profit are the big market chain money men

[mendiplogs]

the big supermarkets sell milk and bread as loss leaders, have you ever noticed the dairy and bread cabinets are always at the backof the stores.....you have to walk past all the shiny bling in your face produce and this encorages you to buy more, the farmers have been screwed by the supermarkets for years, yes theyve got big shiny tractors, all the latest gear etc, but how many of you actually know that most farmers are actually living below the poverty level on wages, give the guys some support, yes cheap food is nice, but the guys producing it have to live as well, the only ones to profit are the big market chain money men

 

Hi mate your right there mate thanks Jon 👍

[Treemover]

Supermarket is like the banker in monopoly. It always makes money and always gets paid first.

 

Their business model runs on these facts.

90 days credit minimum; sometimes 6 months or longer.

They want to maximise return from their stores, so they know exactly what an inch of counter costs and has potential to earn. They want products that move and move in volume.

Milk, bread and alcohol are 3 main lures for customers. So they want to offer their customers a better offer than their competitors. So they will loss lead if they can get away with it.

 

I thought it was illegal? But the supermarkets have better representation than farmers.

We sell to several supermarket chains and not all supermarket chains are the same. The ones we deal with pay on dispatch or within 30 days; and realise higher valued products also suit their business models.

 

Our local Tesco always has milk that is 2-5 days from best before. Homogenised milk has a shelf life of approx 21 days. You should be able to buy milk with at least 19-20 days best before. The reason they get the older milk; is they have the supplier pushed that far; they will offer fresher milk to other outlets and Tesco are getting returns and older milk. Essentially you get what you pay for. Milk, bread, fish and eggs are all best fresh;

I could rant on and on.

[matelot]

Other industries like deep cast coal mining/ textiles/ consumer electronic production/ ship building etc have left Britain because they were uneconomic. I know this will sound heartless, but I don't really see what the big deal is if some milk farmers cease production.

 

When the shipyards closed down the sites were empty for decades, at least with the farming industry it's likely that dairy farms could be turned into beef farms etc within a few days...

[mendiplogs]

Other industries like deep cast coal mining/ textiles/ consumer electronic production/ ship building etc have left Britain because they were uneconomic. I know this will sound heartless, but I don't really see what the big deal is if some milk farmers cease production.

 

When the shipyards closed down the sites were empty for decades, at least with the farming industry it's likely that dairy farms could be turned into beef farms etc within a few days...

 

Hi matelot i see what deal is then mate what is if we support our local farmers then what will happen more milk or coming from abroad that's madness thanks John

[matelot]

Who would have thought that producing more of a commodity would lower it's price?

 

14 billion litres of milk produced in .... that's about 200 litres of milk for each man/ woman/ child in the UK...

 

"UK milk production hits a 20-year high as quotas end

 

UK dairy farmers produced 14.394bn litres in the final year of milk quota – the highest annual production since at least 1994-95.

 

According to provisional data from the RPA, milk production totalled 1.262bn litres in March – 5m litres above last year and also the highest since for the month in 20 years."

 

UK milk production hits a 20-year high as quotas end - Farmers Weekly

[CHC]

Other industries like deep cast coal mining/ textiles/ consumer electronic production/ ship building etc have left Britain because they were uneconomic. I know this will sound heartless, but I don't really see what the big deal is if some milk farmers cease production.

 

When the shipyards closed down the sites were empty for decades, at least with the farming industry it's likely that dairy farms could be turned into beef farms etc within a few days...

 

 

It's not as simple as changing to beef production as dairy cattle don't make good beef cattle and they still need milking. Farming is tough especially when you have to put funds in so that a farm can try and run.