CH4 NEWS - Nesting Birds & Network Rail

[detritus21]

The stupid thing is nesting season is an imaginary date set by ecologists with degrees but no real grasp that some birds nest all year and that not every tree will have a nest in it. Network rail aren't doing anything illegal unless they actively disturb a nest so I don't see what the problem is. When I go out tommorow felling trees I could be in breach of the law but I make the checks to ensure we aren't just like network rail.

[Yournamehere]

the decline in songbird species (wrongly thought out legislation as it's habitat and food source loss in dairy and arable areas that's the root cause.

 

Ooh! Got a linky or reference that i could follow this up for that at all please?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Could Network Rail be breaching law by cutting down trees? | Tom Clarke on Science | Tom Clarke on Science

 

 

It was a poor piece of TV news & a poor blog, maybe they failed to properly research it or maybe there's an 'agenda' being progressed?

 

Quote from a quote in the blog:

 

"It’s an offence to disturb or destroy an active bird’s nest,” said Mark Thomas, senior investigations officer with the RSPB."

 

Maybe Mark Thomas was mis quoted or maybe he genuinely doesn't know the legislation which clearly states "it is an offence to INTENTIONALLY blah, blah, blah....

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Ooh! Got a linky or reference that i could follow this up for that at all please?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Try Google or the British Trust for Ornithology if you're desperate for a reference...

[openspaceman]

It was a poor piece of TV news & a poor blog, maybe they failed to properly research it or maybe there's an 'agenda' being progressed?

 

Quote from a quote in the blog:

 

"It’s an offence to disturb or destroy an active bird’s nest,” said Mark Thomas, senior investigations officer with the RSPB."

 

Maybe Mark Thomas was mis quoted or maybe he genuinely doesn't know the legislation which clearly states "it is an offence to INTENTIONALLY blah, blah, blah....

 

recklessly shirley

[skyhuck]

recklessly shirley

 

Indeed.

 

It would be argued they are not felling the tree "accidentally".

[felixthelogchopper]

It was a poor piece of TV news & a poor blog, maybe they failed to properly research it or maybe there's an 'agenda' being progressed?

 

Quote from a quote in the blog:

 

"It’s an offence to disturb or destroy an active bird’s nest,” said Mark Thomas, senior investigations officer with the RSPB."

 

Maybe Mark Thomas was mis quoted or maybe he genuinely doesn't know the legislation which clearly states "it is an offence to INTENTIONALLY blah, blah, blah....

 

The 'intentionally' part is Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 which I think was amended by the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 which adds the offence of doing so 'recklessly'.

[openspaceman]

Try Google or the British Trust for Ornithology if you're desperate for a reference...

 

yes the BTO one seems sensible but "songbird decline uk" gets some hits.

 

Mixed and dairy farms had animals that produced lots of dung, dung attracts insects birds eat insects. Now much of our dairy products are imported and those the dairy farms that survived now manage their dung under cover to meet modern hygiene standards.

 

Winter wheat is the big money spinner for arable, the other crops are just there to break the parasitic build up. By planting straight after harvest the wheat gets away fast, in the past the stubble was overwintered so that the spring tilling could control arable weeds and pests now chemicals do the job. So the stubbles are not availble as a food stuff nor the arable weeds.

 

Grains stores used to attract vast numbers of tree sparrows but now have to be vermin proof, I only see house sparrows now locally.

 

I could go on...

[penfold]

would network rail have an exemption along the same lines as powerlines and highways? That would blow the BTP's case right out of the water.

[openspaceman]

would network rail have an exemption along the same lines as powerlines and highways? That would blow the BTP's case right out of the water.

 

The exemption as a statutory undertaking on operational land only refers to planning and felling licensing. They still are bound by acts of parliament as are we all.