Arbtalk 2015 General Election Poll

[ballibeg]

Nah. We're just fighting to make sure we can earn enough to give those that can't what we have.

[Gnome]

Separately to the continuing theme in this thread, I'm pretty staggered that nearly 15% of Arbtalkers would even consider voting green.

 

As a forum of mostly self employed folk, the Greens are essentially opposed to business, and believe that an economy best functions as a state run enterprise, and somehow, despite the fact that almost everyone seems to work for the state, the income tax from the super rich will pay for it. They've offered no explanations on how it's all to be paid for and essentially are espousing communism.

 

Of all parties, I think the Green's manifesto is the most unrealistic. I'd rather see UKIP in power, and that's saying something!

 

 

I'm pretty staggered that you are pretty staggered that out of 230 odd people of 21K members that 15% voted green?

 

How do you know that mostmembers are self employed?

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

The very worst part of a democracy is that every crack-pot, pencil-necked, zipper-head gets an equal opportunity to create chaos (if they can be bothered to vote)

 

Agreed wrt (apparent) audience bias TCD! That's BBC for you!

 

I think Clegg & Cameron were wise to extract themselves from the media circus that was wholly anticipated once the whackos were invited.

[Big J]

I'm pretty staggered that you are pretty staggered that out of 230 odd people of 21K members that 15% voted green?

 

How do you know that mostmembers are self employed?

 

15% of a sample population - it's a reasonable cross section.

 

Regarding employment, most folk on here are either self employed or work in small firms and understand the massive economic damage Green economic policy would have. What befuddles me is how an uncosted manifesto that effectively turns the UK in the UK-SSR could persuade anyone. They are a fantasist party, with a leader who lacks any kind of authority, recall or confidence. In principle, I believe that environmental policy should be stricter, but there will be no money to take climate issues if you drive all business abroad/into the ground.

[Big J]

I'm pretty staggered that in a forum of people who love trees, and by extension the natural world, the issue people seem to get most emotive about is which government will most affect their bank balances.

 

Idealism has it's place, but in order to get to a stage where you're able to afford the luxury of thinking about things other than keeping afloat and supporting your family, one has to have a chance at succeeding in business. I operate on the principle of no harm - do unto others as you wish for them to do onto you. Operate on the basis that you avoid causing harm or suffering to other people. The Green party is insisting that the way we can achieve UK-topia is to effectively punish success in business. Such policy results in an exodus of the rich, intelligent and successful.

[Mark Bolam]

Work hard.

Have fun with your friends and family.

Be nice to people.

 

That's my manifesto.

 

 

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[Mountain man]

I'm pretty staggered that you are pretty staggered that out of 230 odd people of 21K members that 15% voted green?

 

How do you know that mostmembers are self employed?

 

I'm staggered that you are staggered that people are staggered that........oh I give up!

[the village idiot]

I'm staggered that you are staggered that people are staggered that........oh I give up!

 

:lol:

[Big J]

Work hard.

Have fun with your friends and family.

Be nice to people.

 

That's my manifesto.

 

 

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Exactly. The world would be a much happier place if everyone adopted such a simple mantra for life.

[the village idiot]

Idealism has it's place, but in order to get to a stage where you're able to afford the luxury of thinking about things other than keeping afloat and supporting your family, one has to have a chance at succeeding in business. I operate on the principle of no harm - do unto others as you wish for them to do onto you. Operate on the basis that you avoid causing harm or suffering to other people. The Green party is insisting that the way we can achieve UK-topia is to effectively punish success in business. Such policy results in an exodus of the rich, intelligent and successful.

 

We haven't really got time to carry on leaving people to succeed in business. The people in business will always want inconvinient things to be dealt with further down the line so they can carry on amassing wealth. It is great that you operate on the principle of no harm, but unfortunately a great many people don't give a monkeys what harm they are doing and left unchecked will only get worse. Without a timely shift in peoples priorities, and an enforced regime to curb greed the future looks rather bleak.