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On what basis did they say that they are "bad news"? Given that they are "untested" and "no one really knows the effects ".

 

Sorry, but you really can't have your cake and eat it. No research means that you can't really put forward that sort of an argument.

 

There is, however, lots of evidence that shows that fags are really bad for you.

 

 

They have been told e cigs are still very bad for you and not to advise patients the e cig as an alternative to fags, also they were told the chemical content is higher with more dangerous chemicals that a normal fag such as rat poison and pesticides so without any research I can tell you now that's bad and if there unregulated atm then who knows what else they are fitting in there

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Pipes can't be as bad for you, after all it takes 20 minutes to get it lit, by then it's time to get back up the tree. If you do manage to get it alight after 2 puffs it's gone out again. It's less of a smoking habit than a match habit.

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My father started in the war as he was training to be a pilot in America where everybody smoked and cigarettes were a dime a dozen.

I remember when I was a boy a carpet of half smoked butt ends lay on the ground outside the office. No filters but only half smoked so perhaps saved his lungs a bit as he was nearly ninety when he died.

But although he did pack up overnight when he was about fifty, he always said he was one away for the rest of his life.

He had a couple of "one aways" when on holiday looking out across a bay at a beautiful sunset with a glass of wine when the guy on the next table lit a Gauloise.....

 

I think the trouble is not so much the nicotine but the habit by association. This is true of dieting as well.

You stop for a break, cup of coffee means there is a huge feeling of a need for a ciggy or a few chocolate biscuits.

No break for whatever reason means no cravings for either.

Same thing driving on your own,ciggies and sweeties or down at the pub with a beer in hand. Out come the crisps nuts and ciggies.

 

I know how hard it is as I was a very occasional smoker in my youth. I would buy a packet of ten on a Saturday night and wake up with a terrible throat on Sunday morning. Swear never to smoke again and I would then go through the next two weeks maybe without touching one, never smoked at work, but the next time I was in the pub and someone just bought a round and everyone lit up and offered me one.....just one away.

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Pipes can't be as bad for you, after all it takes 20 minutes to get it lit, by then it's time to get back up the tree. If you do manage to get it alight after 2 puffs it's gone out again. It's less of a smoking habit than a match habit.

 

 

Your probably more likely to die driving down a country road steering with your knees trying to stoke and light it up as well. .. It's sounding more promising by the minute.

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