wood pigeons

[Ty Korrigan]

One was brought down today when No.1 Climber topped out a lone Lawson.

The eggs where ready to hatch and smashed open in front of the chipper.

Afghan chipper feeder was shocked to see is despite all he has been through in 14 years of war.

Shame but I'm not losing valuable work for 5 due to a birds nest, that is just nuts.

If I didn't do it then some-one else would and the coins are better off rattling around my pocket.

The biggest predator of wild birds must be domestic cats not tree surgeons.

Not as if we are felling a Scots Pine with a Golden eagle roosting in it now eh?

Ty

[waz77]

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read what the licence permits at the top....

 

you can kill, take, damage or destroy nests, take or destroy their eggs.

 

all legally of the species listed in that picture. nesting, have young or what ever.

 

 

 

 

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Only if it falls into one of the exemptions, wanting to dismantle a eucalyptus isn't one of them. A company I do a lot of work for recently got their collar felt for reducing a conifer hedge that was burning off in the power lines, because someone had found some old nests on the floor after the work was completed. In the end it was decided that they wouldn't be prosecuted, but they could have been.

[Jon3012]

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read what the licence permits at the top....

 

you can kill, take, damage or destroy nests, take or destroy their eggs.

 

all legally of the species listed in that picture. nesting, have young or what ever.

 

 

 

 

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Read what it says at the bottom that you have be certain that all other non lethal methods have been tried. Killing a wood pigeon in suburbia has nothing to do with pest control. If I was at work and someone called me about this I would tell them to leave it until they finished.

[wisecobandit]

Referring again to the above defra site once again..

This document, therefore, is designed to provide the layman with an overview of the law relating to the control of feral pigeons and what actions can and cannot be taken to ensure that the controls provided fall within the scope of the law. It should also be noted that although pigeon pest control companies provide professional pigeon pest control services, it is not always the case that contractors are familiar with the law or can be relied upon to advise in respect of the law. It is, therefore, important to confirm any advice provided by a pest control contractor with DEFRA, the Pigeon Control Resource Centre prior to instructing the contractor, particularly if lethal controls or bird exclusion products have been recommended. It should also be noted that any action taken to control birds on a property is the legal responsibility of the property owner and not the contractor that is instructed. If a contractor breaks the law whilst acting on behalf of the client, and on the client’s property, it is the client that will be held legally responsible for the actions of the contractor.

[Stubby]

I wonder what the reason for the take down was?

 

if it could possibly damage property or endanger life then I dont think there would be a problem.

 

 

 

 

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Probably pigeon shyte on the cars below ....

[Silverwood]

I wonder what the reason for the take down was?

 

if it could possibly damage property or endanger life then I dont think there would be a problem.

 

 

 

 

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Hi Ian,

The trees too close to the house and is hanging over into the neighbours garden.

The customer has not been in the property long but has big plans for the garden and the eucalyptus does not figure.

Kind of a shame because its a nice looking healthy tree.

My tree mans coming to have a look on tuesday.

What are these like after a crown reduction/hard cut back?

 

Cheers

 

Sean

[oldwoodcutter]

Shooting pigeons at this time of year on crops, is viewed as distasteful by my shooting friends as they know that it will leave young birds to starve to death back at the nest.They generally shoot clays instead during this season.

[headgroundsman]

It has been several years since the woodpigeon could be shot by anyone just because it is flying in range. It is no longer classed as a pest. It is allowed on special licence for the protection crops so you should be able to say what damage the pigeon was doing. Straight forward when shooting over a crop field. Not so easy if just flying past when you are out with the gun and very tough if sitting in a tree.

[Will Ayers]

It has been several years since the woodpigeon could be shot by anyone just because it is flying in range. It is no longer classed as a pest. It is allowed on special licence for the protection crops so you should be able to say what damage the pigeon was doing. Straight forward when shooting over a crop field. Not so easy if just flying past when you are out with the gun and very tough if sitting in a tree.

 

 

The wood pigeon is still firmly classed as a huge pest both by the authorities and the farmers of the uk. Because they breed all year and because different crops are vulnerable throughout the year it is important that farmers are within their rights to control them. People miss understand what general license means. Yes pigeons can be shot throughout the year and frankly sportsmanship should not come in to the debate. If the pests are doing damage then controlling them is imperative. You are simply not allowed to shoot pigeon for sport (that's not to say it can't be enjoyable) but killing these birds must be for pest control.

 

However, removing a nesting pigeon directly for the purposes of taking down a tree is not pest control. By nesting in the tree they do no damage, these are very adaptable birds which can survive on seemingly almost anything. You have to be able to prove that the bird is actively being a pest before it can be killed. Shooting out the nests of pigeon nesting in a country hedge is okay for pest control but removing one from a tree in order to remove the tree is simply not.

 

It's a twisty turney set of laws that governs our ability to kill other animals. Pigeons are under general license but that doesn't mean a lot when it comes to them in their nests away from an agricultural environment.

 

 

As for the weird way of thinking that pigeons should have seasons where they should not be shot, that in itself acts to go against the general license. They are pests. We are trying to reduce their numbers. If we let them live longer they will breed more and there will be more pigeons. I believe our job as pigeon shooters is to remove as many as we possibly can all year round.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Or just leave it on. Amusing to watch a flock jump two feet and carry on as normal after a bang:001_smile:

 

I don't bother shooting nowadays...just work my dog. I'm not even convinced they do much damage to rape. Even after grazing a field it seems to come back stronger than ever. The smell of a pigeon's crop full of rape could put you off eating them forever!

 

I get the breast out without going near the crop:thumbup1: