someone told me a much quicker way to rig but is it safe?

[Tom D]

Started using slings n screw gate krabs for lowering (nothing huge) about a year ago and haven't looked back or damAged any kit etc and you can have 2or3 'pre slung' while waiting for rope to return, has speeded things up a bit:) But still use hitches etc as well

 

 

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Plus you can break down a branch in the tree on several slings and still lower the whole lot as one, this makes life much easier for the ground staff in tight spots.

[Stephen Blair]

You are the climber, you decide what you use and how you want it done and how fast you wish to work.

Your impatient sailor friend should not be in charge.

 

I use slings and a steel twist lock

[MattyF]

I rig a lot with a big dan steel krabs with a half hitch in front if shock loading a piece , how tom described with slings works great as well but tbh I would not want a screw gate in there as it's a fiddle doing it up.

 

 

 

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[Craig Johnson]

You are the climber, you decide what you use and how you want it done and how fast you wish to work.

Your impatient sailor friend should not be in charge.

 

:thumbup1:

 

on small loads I just go round the branch twice, which helps protect the binner. don't think I would chog down a stem, even with a big dan:001_tt2: just makes too tight a bend! right tool right job:001_rolleyes:

[MattyF]

How bigs big?? The rope in that vid looked like it would give up before a big dan and half hitch combo would.

If ever I have snapped a lowering rope it's been on the first half hitch that its failed, IMO you can go pretty large before reverting back to say a timber hitch.

 

 

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[Scott Walker]

I rig a lot with a big dan steel krabs with a half hitch in front if shock loading a piece , how tom described with slings works great as well but tbh I would not want a screw gate in there as it's a fiddle doing it up.

 

 

 

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Im the same alway rigged with a big dan tied on the end of the lowering rope, never had an issue or any failures in 8 years of doing it, so will continue it works for me.

 

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[born2trot]

Grippy slings now and steel crabs , much quicker and easier ..

[samiad]

cheers for all that, good info and reassurance/stuff to watch. The rope is abseil rope used in rope access. I do a bit of that and can get allot so been on with that until I have enough cash for a proper beast of a lowering rope! I had a thought though of doubling the abseil rope up and tying everything on a bite. Got a big pulley that would accommodate both ropes. Could i double the strength of my system if the gear below is upto it? would a port wrap work with 2 ropes going through it? il do some tests and make another vid.

[Adam Bourne]

Clove hitch or cow hitch both finished with a half hitch! Quick simple no hardware needed and can fit to any sized timer!

 

 

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[Treegeek]

I had this issue arise at a firm I worked for I was rigging a tree the department supervisor turned up on site went nuts cos I was using a karabiner on the end of rigging line ???

After many heated debates they conceded as long as its within limits and use correctly which is the same for.any system.

At the end of the day if your using a system you shouldn't be oblivious to its limitations