Confidentiality agreement.

[Steve Bullman]

Yes.

 

In your opinion. I'm sure there are things you do that others wouldn't approve of. Everyone has their own morals and their own justifications for the things they do.

[GlobalNewark]

We have confidentiality clauses written in all our contracts to the point where if we leave our jobs we are not supposed to work in the industry for six months afterwards.

 

I guess enforcing this is a different matter but the higher up the laddwer you are the more serious it becomes. This can definitely be enforced as I have witnessed it first hand twice now.

[steve@black]

Situation is a guy works for me aprox 3 days a week has got rather cosy with on of my regular customers ( large property owner) and it turns out he has been there splitting logs for them . I have even mentioned to him I had not heard from them in a while and he says nothing .

[felixthelogchopper]

Situation is a guy works for me aprox 3 days a week has got rather cosy with on of my regular customers ( large property owner) and it turns out he has been there splitting logs for them . I have even mentioned to him I had not heard from them in a while and he says nothing .

 

On the books or self employed, and is log splitting the sort of work you do for people?

[Paul Jenks]

If a client of mine wishes to use someone else, whomsoever they are, that's their choice. If it's as a result of my poor service then more fool me. If it's because they feel they get a better[read cheaper] job from someone else, so be it. I don't regularly use sub-contract labour, though this situation has occurred historically. Good riddance to both.

Confidentiality agreements are usually used when accessing another companies' information when looking to buy it. You'll usually have a confidentiality clause in your contract of employment. Goes without saying really.

[steve@black]

Self employed and no log splitting is not the sort of work I have time to do , but as a buisness might be something I could do is provide this service.What my major concern is if he is there with a saw and the customer asks for other work to be done where does this end .Also the lack of comunication regarding this.

[felixthelogchopper]

Self employed and no log splitting is not the sort of work I have time to do , but as a buisness might be something I could do is provide this service.What my major concern is if he is there with a saw and the customer asks for other work to be done where does this end .Also the lack of comunication regarding this.

 

I don't see your dilemma? He has over stepped the mark and you won't have any comeback if you 'no longer require his services'.

[jaime bray]

Situation is a guy works for me aprox 3 days a week has got rather cosy with on of my regular customers ( large property owner) and it turns out he has been there splitting logs for them . I have even mentioned to him I had not heard from them in a while and he says nothing .

 

Shame to judge the situ from the outside, but id say hes more than likely been tapped up by the client. Whilst working there they may have asked him to log it up at weekend for a few bob. Hes agreed and it goes from there. Sack him and the customer will find out and deem you an arse and wont use you again. Although they seem to have replaced you already for the type of jobs they need doing for now.

 

When having a break next, drop a few lines in about a carpenter mate who has just had 'this situ' done to him, and say that you told him if it was you they had done it too you would knock the muck out of him.

 

May make him think twice about doing the dirty on the hand that feeds him. Presuming you provide reasonable working conditions and adequate pay for experience and contributions to the company of your staff then you are, in my opinion, within your moral rights to be miffed at such activities

 

Unfortunately its the problem with having pleasant staff that converse well with clients etc. It often leads to this type of conversation occurring in my experience.

 

Another thing that I never do is give out numbers of known 'grounds maintenance' people, lads, companies that I know to my regular customers when they ask if I know any to do the lawn etc. Hedgecutting gets done first, then in the winter they are at the treework. If you look after your customers then why shouldn't you protect their future business with you.

 

One thing for sure, if it was me, my working relationship with said person would not be as strong as before I knew about this. Every time they converse with customer id be thinking... oi!!!! get out of it and find something to do. From there its a slippery slope.

 

But that's just my opinion.

[skyhuck]

In your opinion. I'm sure there are things you do that others wouldn't approve of. Everyone has their own morals and their own justifications for the things they do.

 

Of cause and my "yes" was a little tongue in cheek

 

But I have always tried to be as straight and honest in my dealings as possible, doing by others as I wish to be done by.

 

But suggesting that most of us started our businesses by poaching customers from those we worked for is appalling IMO and I certainly don't want new lads to thinking it a good idea or in anyway acceptable.

[steve@black]

Jamie I think you have hit the nail on the head . It is not the sort of work I do but had discussed with this guy I could possibly send an apprentice up to split logs on days when I am doing other things. Certainly has changed the dynamic at work now.