Not the right knot

[graham 1001]

Day to day I use a short rope which is the remains of my old long rope which has the spliced eye cut off. It needs a knot tying in it obviously so I use a bowline and I've always been in the habit of putting a yosemite tie off. Yesterday it slipped back through and I very nearly clipped into it. The mess wouldn't have been a problem, the chicken's would have cleaned me up!

 

So, my question is - is it better to just tie a bowline (without a tie off) or what other knots do people use on their main line......

 

hi, I was taught to use the bowline at college, always thought it a dangerous knot for climbing. Comes undone all the time!

Was shown a knot by a freelance climber 11 years ago and had no problems with it since. never knew the name of it till i looked it up recently and found it was called the "perfection knot". Its a little harder to undo if you have droped your weight on it but always does. Hope this helps.

[Steve Bullman]

hi, I was taught to use the bowline at college, always thought it a dangerous knot for climbing. Comes undone all the time!

 

I've never had a bowline come undone in 15 years of treework!

[Dean Lofthouse]

I've never had one come undone, even tied loosely.

[RobArb]

Ditto the above

 

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[Rich Rule]

TDS correctly and no not should come undone until it is time to do so.

 

For the record I use a splice.

 

I do use a scaffold or single fishermans to hold and orientate the krab in the correct position on rigging lines.

[Albedo]

Out the rabbit hole....Round the tree...And back down the rabbit hole:001_smile:

[Dan Curtis]

Yosemite bowline all the way for me. It's just tidier than a bowline with a figure eight, and undoes easier than a Fishermans. Once you've clipped in just give the tail a pull to check it's the right loop. The tie off should cinch in, not the loop you're clipped in to. I've never had a problem with it.

[Danavan]

I used to use a buntline once I had reached tip. Bowline was always the one for getting up to tip though for change over(also never had one undo once dressed) . I terminate my side strop with a fishermans though. I use fisherman for termination on my friction hitch too.

[Le Sanglier]

Never had a bowline come undone, never heard of it, don't believe it could happen to a properly tied one.

[graham 1001]

Sorry guys, meant occasionaly comes loose. usually when scabling around a crap tree with no weight on knot. I found if the bottom loop/wrap gets nocked it starts the process of coming loose.

Feel much safer with the knot i use now

Its what you are happy with at the end of the day, its the climbers life on the line, so to speak