Tipping trailer for log delivering

[Jim B]

AND then the cost of driver cpc and tacho in the truck.................

 

Certain 4 x 4s are classed as dual purpose vehicles so are exempt from tacho law.

[Alycidon]

Certain 4 x 4s are classed as dual purpose vehicles so are exempt from tacho law.

 

I have a Defender and have to have a tacho in it.

 

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[briquette_seller]

Certain 4 x 4s are classed as dual purpose vehicles so are exempt from tacho law.

 

They are dual purpose, if they have seats in the rear.

This makes them operators license exempt, but not tacho exempt.

 

If you are working for hire or reward, you require a tacho.

 

If your gross unladen weight is over 3.5 tonnes you need a tacho.

 

That's my understanding, and that's why I run a tacho in my Ranger for log deliveries

[Stoatally]

My understanding was that it was a gross weight or train weight over 3,500 kg hence ranger, hilux, landy etc needing tacho

[Jim B]

I do not believe that to be true. A defender is classed as a dual purpose vehicle regardless of the seating.

[briquette_seller]

The dual purpose category generally includes cars, estates, pickups (with a second row of seats (crew cab) only), and domestic 4x4 vehicles such as Land Rovers, Jeeps, and other similar vehicles below 2040kgs unladen weight

 

Taken from VOSA

[Jim B]

I have also just read within the drivers hours regulations vehicles over 25 years are now exempt from drivers hours. If you follow the flow chat most people will not need to keep records or have a tacho as they do not exceed four hours driving in a working day and the majority on here will be within the 100 km forestry or agriculture rule. Let's remember that this has not been tested in court so until someone refuses to pay the fine and let a judge decide it is just everyone's own views.

[Jim B]

The dual purpose category generally includes cars, estates, pickups (with a second row of seats (crew cab) only), and domestic 4x4 vehicles such as Land Rovers, Jeeps, and other similar vehicles below 2040kgs unladen weight

 

Taken from VOSA

 

Having just read the 1986 regs on DPVs again the seating makes no difference as long as the vehicle has four wheel drive and has an unladen weight (not kerb) of 2040 kg. Most people towing with a 4 x4 would be able to use this exemption. Taken from the DoT.

[openspaceman]

Having just read the 1986 regs on DPVs again the seating makes no difference as long as the vehicle has four wheel drive and has an unladen weight (not kerb) of 2040 kg. Most people towing with a 4 x4 would be able to use this exemption. Taken from the DoT.

 

 

As has been said this is an exemption from O licence, tacho still needed unless travelling to site within 100km and with tools and equipment driver will use on site.

 

Big question is which modern 4WD diesel has an unladen weight less than 2040kg??

[rick k]

As has been said this is an exemption from O licence, tacho still needed unless travelling to site within 100km and with tools and equipment driver will use on site.

 

 

 

Big question is which modern 4WD diesel has an unladen weight less than 2040kg??

 

 

Double cab hilux weighs in at 1420 kilo

Can guess most other pickups are similar