poor pay

[Steve Bullman]

I believe this is all referring to a post that was made in one of the job postings

[jimmyjnr]

Hi guys

 

We Are in a double dip recession and every business can offer different rates so the thing is get off the guys case for what he is offering as at the end of the day someone will be happy with what there offering and it's one less person on the dole that's taking our taxes.

[Sam Thompson]

There seems to be a lot of whining on Arbtalk about money.

 

We are probably all worth twice what we earn, but that's the way it is.

 

A big company on here recently offered about £7.5/hr to a newbie and were slagged off. Look at the amount of posts from lads offering to work for nothing!

 

As long as you are offering minimum wage, the rest is down to choice.

 

I wish I was 18 again giving my Mam £20 a week all found, but just because you're in your 40's with 3 kids doesn't make you worth any more to the bloke who has to come up with your wage every week.

 

 

Mark is obviously been shot in the face, that isn't him, it is right and sensible.

 

 

 

I cannot believe that you think £7.50 is a bad wage for a proper job, not subby/cash in hand/occasional day here and there stuff!

 

 

Some people need a boot in the arse.

[born2trot]

Wait a minute here ... No comment on job postings should mean exactly that , good or bad .

[Stereo]

It makes me sick to hear somebody berating an employer for offering a job in a free market. Do you realise how hard it is to employ somebody? Most business owners don't get sick pay, don't get 6 weeks paid holiday and all the other rubbish but in return work 3 times as hard as most of their staff.

 

I've employed a lot of guys and some have been excellent but NONE have worked as hard as me. NONE have cared as much as I did. NONE have seen further than 3 months ahead but all have been keen to take their allotted holiday WHATEVER the state of the business.

 

Employing people is not US against THEM. Or at least it shouldn't be. Employees sometimes maybe need to have a think about the people who pay their wages. What are your bosses giving up in these hard times to make sure you are still in a job? You might just be suprised.

 

I would expect that 99% of bosses are caring and fair people, not out to fleece their staff for every penny. Their staff probably get paid before they do. I know mine do. This 1970's socialist crap needs to be consigned to the history books. It's just not like that any more in my view.

[GardenKit]

Good post, Stereo.

[toprotter]

I worked for LA 's all over the place 20yrs ago the pay wer'nt great

but it got my foot in the door , kit supplied and ended up being offered

a permanent position with One.

It was good fun and worked with all skills and gave me confidence

For a college leaver it's a great position and shouldn't be knocked and if your hungry it could be the beggings of well who knows......

A Cv for a start

[Czlowiek Drzewo]

mmm....man up people!

 

used to work for a guy who always said...when men were men!.

 

too many pussy's out there now. Simple as this.. there is A LOT of competition out there and if you can not keep up then get out of the game.

 

I have taken on so many climber wannabees over the last few years...and maybe 5% of them were ok climbers.

 

I think they should tell them in college before they start the course..that only 5% of them will make it as good climbers and the other 95% will be ok groundsman because thats what i see.

 

Rough i know! but its true. doesn't matter about your age and circumstances..an employer is looking for someone to make there life easier and make them more profit..if a 18 year old with 3 years exp can do the job for less than a 35 year old then in a competitive industry the 18 year old will get the job.

 

I would love to pay top dollar for exp guys...but i can't afford it as i must put this onto the price of jobs.

 

too much Vodka tonight..but hope this makes sense.

[easy-lift guy]

Interesting thread. My Nephew just graduated from college here in the States, he has a degree in graphic arts. He has been on unemployment for at least 70 weeks. It shall be running out soon, I hope!. He clears $404.00 per week while still attending school. He has had several job interviews and I heard of one firm willing to offer him a entry level position starting pay $8.00 per hour!. Now he feels pretty sad about that since he could be making that working retail. His mom thinks the employers are holding out on him?. She believes that he should start at $25.00 per hour. I asked my sister when she started in the school system 23 years ago did she tell the school how much she was worth or did she start with what was offered and work her way up from there?.

Of course that was different than and does not apply now for her son with no actual work experience, other than a recommendation from the dean at the college. Problem is most folks these days really don't have a clue how much they are worth and have been brain washed into believing their own value is so much higher than what the market will bare.

Most folks I know work Two jobs and the ones that own and run their own business make incredible sacrifices from a personal and financial stand point on a daily basis.

It is a pity that reality and common sense are no longer available at any level of education. I would say more but I am tired and my rant is over, for now!

easy-lift guy

[brewx1]

Mark is obviously been shot in the face, that isn't him, it is right and sensible.

 

 

 

I cannot believe that you think £7.50 is a bad wage for a proper job, not subby/cash in hand/occasional day here and there stuff!

 

 

Some people need a boot in the arse.

 

I do think £7.50 is a bad wage for a proper job that not just anyone can walk into off the street, i.e they've had to go through training and get qualified. nobody's got a big enough boot that will make me change that opinion