New Towing Regs - Jan 2013

[ROG.]

The council downplated there trailers to 2000 kg. It allowed there transit type vehicles to pull them within the law.

That was at least 12 years ago.

 

Daft numpties - there was no need to

 

A transit with a GVW of 3500 and a GTW of say 5500 can tow a trailer with a MAM of 3500

The GTW refers to the actual max weight the combination can be when loaded but the distribution of that 5500 is down to the driver as long as neither the vehicle GVW or the trailer MAM are exceeded

[gensetsteve]

Daft numpties - there was no need to

 

A transit with a GVW of 3500 and a GTW of say 5500 can tow a trailer with a MAM of 3500

The GTW refers to the actual max weight the combination can be when loaded but the distribution of that 5500 is down to the driver as long as neither the vehicle GVW or the trailer MAM are exceeded

 

Vosa have been prosecuting people over the last few years if the trailer was plated and had the potential when loaded to exceed the vehicle gross train weight even if it was empty. Same as post 97 drivers cant get caught with a big trailer even if it weighs less than 750 when empty.

[agg221]

Correct for your B+E licence

 

Plated weights cannot be interchanged at will

 

For the B licence holder

You have vehicle unladen of 2000 so that means a max trailer MAM of 1500 BUT ..... you have not told me what the vehicle GVW is....

I need the vehicle GVW to add it to the 1500 trailer MAM and then see if it breaks the max 3500 combined weight GVW/MAM rule of 3500

 

Having just looked it up, vehicle kerb weight, which I presume is unladen, is actually 1528kg. Maximum total weight is 2150kg (presumably GVW), even though maximum load is specified at 500kg.

 

Although in principle plates can't be swapped regularly, if you have the two plates and pop-rivet them on as required, it would appear to be pretty untraceable and you would always be legal on the road?

 

Alec

[ROG.]

Vosa have been prosecuting people over the last few years if the trailer was plated and had the potential when loaded to exceed the vehicle gross train weight even if it was empty. Same as post 97 drivers cant get caught with a big trailer even if it weighs less than 750 when empty.

No VOSA have not and nor have the police

 

This MYTH has been spouted so many times aound the internet that some are starting to believe it !!

 

There is NO LAW which states the MAM of the trailer cannot exceed the towing capacity of the vehicle

 

I have challenged everyone who believes this myth to find me the law which backs up what they are saying and guess what ..... no replies in over 3 years

 

The 750 actual trailer weight might be true because if the trailer actually weighed 700 but had a MAM of say 3000 then that would be illegal for a B only licence holder because no car I know of has a GVW of 500 !!!

[ROG.]

Having just looked it up, vehicle kerb weight, which I presume is unladen, is actually 1528kg. Maximum total weight is 2150kg (presumably GVW), even though maximum load is specified at 500kg.

 

Although in principle plates can't be swapped regularly, if you have the two plates and pop-rivet them on as required, it would appear to be pretty untraceable and you would always be legal on the road?

 

Alec

If you wanted to take that chance on the swapping of plates then that is up to the driver !! - I aint the law

 

with those weights for the vehicle then the B licence holder can have a trailer with a max plated MAM of 1350

1350+2150=3500 - rule complied with

1350 is less than 1528 - rule complied with

[volvo]

Daft numpties - there was no need to

 

A transit with a GVW of 3500 and a GTW of say 5500 can tow a trailer with a MAM of 3500

The GTW refers to the actual max weight the combination can be when loaded but the distribution of that 5500 is down to the driver as long as neither the vehicle GVW or the trailer MAM are exceeded

 

 

That plating advice came from the guys in VOSA.

[swinny]

I'm a post 97 lad

 

My iveco is a 3.5t tipper and its gtw is 6000kg.

 

All i have to tow really is a timberwolf 150 which timber wolf states is 737kg or 748kg..... so i'm ok to to this i think....

 

With the post 97 licence does that mean i can only tow it and not have a load on the back as that will take me over the gvw?

 

I hate seeing these threads appear, as people say one thing then the other.... and you don't know who to listen too....

 

should i just say bugger it and go book my trailer test B+E? and forget about this SILLY topic once and for all?

[Big 'Ammer]

I'm a post 97 lad

 

My iveco is a 3.5t tipper and its gtw is 6000kg.

 

All i have to tow really is a timberwolf 150 which timber wolf states is 737kg or 748kg..... so i'm ok to to this i think....

 

With the post 97 licence does that mean i can only tow it and not have a load on the back as that will take me over the gvw?

 

I hate seeing these threads appear, as people say one thing then the other.... and you don't know who to listen too....

 

should i just say bugger it and go book my trailer test B+E? and forget about this SILLY topic once and for all?

 

Your chipper is unbraked and has a MAM of under 750kg, so you are ok to tow it and load the truck up to a GVW of 3500kg.

 

If you towed a chipper over 750kg, you would have to subtract its weight from your 3500kg truck MAM and see what you had left for payload of chips - Not very much!!!

 

Thats why most of the popular chipper manufacturers offer sub-750kg chippers nowadays to fit within the regs.

[treequip]

Yes they can if the trailer manufacturer is still operating but they cannot have two different plates and be interchanged at will depending on the licence being used at the time

 

Why not, trailers under 3500kg arent subject to any test so provided you stay within the design weights what's to stop you?

[ROG.]

That plating advice came from the guys in VOSA.

VOSA not the best dept for licence rules - they should have taken advice from DVLA