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On 21/02/2021 at 20:08, Stubby said:

I think most Corvids are smart .

Understatement Stubby!

They have far more neurons/square inch and their brains are a match for chimps.

When chimps seem to be intelligent by poking a stick down a hole to bring up a termite, they did not imagine the tool they needed but really achieved the result by playful messing about and then learning and copying.

Corvids when put in a cage with a glass jar with a bucket of meat in it that cannot be reached with their beak, can use abstract thought to imagine the tool they need so when a straight piece of wire was placed in the cage the crows picked it up and bent it into a hook around its feet, to hook the bucket of meat out of the jar.

The scientists were so amazed by this that they tried the same with a different crow and this one made the hook by bending it in the bars of the cage.

They also filled a jar with water and the reward was just floating out of reach.  They placed some stones in the cage and the crows worked out how to bring the bucket up by filling the jar with stones, something apparently that most  human children cannot work out until they are over 5.

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8 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Yeah but when lions can pull a net out of their arse to catch their prey, antelope/Zebras (like spiders do with flies)

we’ll talk.

They tried that s few million years ago but found  that they had a much quicker result by developing claws, teeth and fast feet!

When they caught the Zebras with their nets they found that they had no teeth with which to eat them

I'm talking!

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Understatement Stubby!
They have far more neurons/square inch and their brains are a match for chimps.
When chimps seem to be intelligent by poking a stick down a hole to bring up a termite, they did not imagine the tool they needed but really achieved the result by playful messing about and then learning and copying.
Corvids when put in a cage with a glass jar with a bucket of meat in it that cannot be reached with their beak, can use abstract thought to imagine the tool they need so when a straight piece of wire was placed in the cage the crows picked it up and bent it into a hook around its feet, to hook the bucket of meat out of the jar.
The scientists were so amazed by this that they tried the same with a different crow and this one made the hook by bending it in the bars of the cage.
They also filled a jar with water and the reward was just floating out of reach.  They placed some stones in the cage and the crows worked out how to bring the bucket up by filling the jar with stones, something apparently that most  human children cannot work out until they are over 5.
Covids are indeed very smart. I learnt the other day that they can recognise human faces as well. There was a story about people who'd caught crows to ID tag them, they were mobbed and squawked at forever after by those particular crows.
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7 minutes ago, sime42 said:
11 hours ago, Billhook said:
Understatement Stubby!
They have far more neurons/square inch and their brains are a match for chimps.
When chimps seem to be intelligent by poking a stick down a hole to bring up a termite, they did not imagine the tool they needed but really achieved the result by playful messing about and then learning and copying.
Corvids when put in a cage with a glass jar with a bucket of meat in it that cannot be reached with their beak, can use abstract thought to imagine the tool they need so when a straight piece of wire was placed in the cage the crows picked it up and bent it into a hook around its feet, to hook the bucket of meat out of the jar.
The scientists were so amazed by this that they tried the same with a different crow and this one made the hook by bending it in the bars of the cage.
They also filled a jar with water and the reward was just floating out of reach.  They placed some stones in the cage and the crows worked out how to bring the bucket up by filling the jar with stones, something apparently that most  human children cannot work out until they are over 5.

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Covids are indeed very smart. I learnt the other day that they can recognise human faces as well. There was a story about people who'd caught crows to ID tag them, they were mobbed and squawked at forever after by those particular crows.

The next generation has been told as well!

 

 

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On ‎16‎/‎03‎/‎2021 at 19:47, gary112 said:

95C93E8C-C3FE-4CED-87E6-37591AF2F114.thumb.png.32fa68822fd9e29f0cb6448651b4c600.pngnice little blackcap this morning 

 

Hi Gary

It is a nice pic but I think with the slightly shorter beak and that black chin this may well be a Willow (or possibly Marsh) tit rather than a male Blackcap.  Always ready to be corrected !

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