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work wuss i'd agree with what your saying i think your both confusing each other. its the same formula for when calculating becket loads on cranes. 5% friction is included with the equation(thats going through pulleys) this is dynamic however but still bares relevance. you will have less forces on the opposing side of the climber if you've applied the weight with no force. you dont need 100kg to counter 100kg when over a branch. once you've jumped around a bit though the forces will equalise as you've applied extra force from the climber side. obviously this all only applies if your directly below the limb(angles change everything). if you put so many wraps around your top limb it then almost becomes a top tie in point. put enough wraps the force becomes almost x1 on the limb.

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work wuss i'd agree with what your saying i think your both confusing each other. its the same formula for when calculating becket loads on cranes. 5% friction is included with the equation(thats going through pulleys) this is dynamic however but still bares relevance. you will have less forces on the opposing side of the climber if you've applied the weight with no force. you dont need 100kg to counter 100kg when over a branch. once you've jumped around a bit though the forces will equalise as you've applied extra force from the climber side. obviously this all only applies if your directly below the limb(angles change everything). if you put so many wraps around your top limb it then almost becomes a top tie in point. put enough wraps the force becomes almost x1 on the limb.

 

I wondered as much! Thanks! :thumbup1:

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That's it, I've finally done it, I've ordered a rope wrench....:biggrin:

(And a few other bits including stuff for a new lanyard....:blushing:)

So knowing Justin's service that will be with me on Thursday....:thumbup1:

 

Excited much!:thumbup::thumbup:

 

You'll love it mate

 

Now you have to re read this whole thread before use, manufacturers recommendation:lol:

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