hardwood / softwood

[rangerover860]

mention soft wood to a customer in our area and they will run a mile...

 

i know what you mean , so they will have to be educated or go back to the gas fires

[Andy Collins]

Hardwood is no harder to fell and extract than softwood, it flies through the harvester, you only cut one product size, therefore one stack, it doesnt even need to be snedded properly or be anywhere near on size to sell. Bazz it through the head, cut it into randomly sized ugly lumps and someone will buy it at a crazy price. Its all to do with demand, cutomers demand it therefore the price goes up simple.

 

Sorry, I was referring to a "normal" hardwood woodland, one thats been neglected, the +60cm taken by saw, sub 60cm by harvester, then having to run around like mad snedding the wide forked limbs (that the harvester cant "bazz" through the head) so the forwarder can move them.

[Alycidon]

i know what you mean , so they will have to be educated or go back to the gas fires

 

Thats spot on, the Scandinavians mainly burn softwood. Last year I had a smal pile of hard and a pile of soft about 3 times as big. It all sold. This year I have the same rations but much bigger piles. I am selling Firewood and Hardwood, not had a single complaint yet but I do make ultra sure its very dry.

 

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[difflock]

Having had & burned both Birch and now mostly Lodgepole Pine.

It's a bloody nuicence keeping the stove fuelled with the pine.

Plus due to the density I can not store as much beside the fire, well I can store "as much" just there is less burning in the volume.

And really I should have put in a 50Kw log boiler rather than the 40Kw.

40Kw fine on Birch, but needs more re-fuelling when fed on lodgepole.

[Billy68]

i have always sold my customers what i have on the pile take it or leave it logs

[TheLogPeople]

I take it you've never done contract felling, trying to earn a living with ever spiralling costs? Hardwood costs a lot to harvest, if a harvester can be used it cant handle the spready branches of the crown, whereas it can whip through a softwood plantation. A man on a saw wants to earn enough to be worth his while being out in all weathers, doing a dangerous job, then the wood has to be got to the roadside, so a forwarder is needed. More expense and more fuel. Then a timber lorry has to transport the timber to the yard to be processed, more fuel, more labour and more $$$. I'll not bore you further with the processing cost, transport costs and labor cost to deliver to your door. Softwood is ok, but it will burn quicker and you will need more of it, false economy maybe?

 

Hi Andy,

 

For what we're selling our softwood for we certainly don't think it is false economy. Indeed you probably go through softwood at a quicker rate but if the cost is reflected in your supplies then softwood's on a winner.

 

Just to give you some context about our softwood firewood supplies:

 

Our firewood is mostly softwood (although we do have a fair amount of hardwood). Our stocks are fully seasoned and ready to burn. Moisture content testing averages between 15 and 20% which is pretty impressive for air-dried firewood.

 

We have 1.2 cubic meter crates of fully seasoned softwood available at £45 per crate plus £5 deposit for each crate which we'll refund if the crate is returned. All logs are fully seasoned and ready to burn. We can deliver 48 crates at a time.

 

We can also supply the logs in netted bags if anyone prefers for £2 each.

 

 

If anyone wants to chat more about what we've got in stock and ask any questions feel free to call me on 07519 505073.

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

Brian

[delabodge]

People buy these Swedish designed log stoves and order hardwood,always gives me a chuckle

softwood is the future of renewable woodfuel,grows faster quicker to harvest quicker to season,It burns alot hotter and if using the correct softwoods the burn time between larch and lump of well seasoned hardwood is very minimal considering the softwood is cheaper by far for the customer to buy.It's all I ever sell.Our family started pushing softwood around the early 60's

leave the hardwood for building frames and nice bits of furniture tis a shame to cut and burn nice lumps of oak when it could be used for somthing much nicer.

Hardwood stands are only viable as long term firewood production if properly coppiced and looked after,sadly the uk has an awful lot of abandoned coppice.

 

this man talks sense:thumbup: and Im a hardwod log seller,,,

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

mention soft wood to a customer in our area and they will run a mile...

 

Indeed!

 

 

We have 1.2 cubic meter crates of fully seasoned softwood available at £45

 

 

2 years ago here in Devon where firewood seems to be the cheapest in the land, sitka was selling at £20 a ton (or might have been metre). This year softwood is £45 at roadside...

[Justme]

We have 1.2 cubic meter crates of fully seasoned softwood available at £45 per crate plus £5 deposit for each crate which we'll refund if the crate is returned. All logs are fully seasoned and ready to burn. We can deliver 48 crates at a time.

 

 

Where in the country are you?

[Stevietrees]

What do people think of Hybrid Black Poplar for burning. I have tonnes and wonder whether its worth processing.

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