cost price/load

[Billy]

that is right, and yes its not a good fair deal imo. trouble is i know i could get a better deal by lieing like others have (one guy had him believe a whole transit load was 1 cubic meter and said he would buy this for £20) but i'm not game for that so i think best i can do him is a 20-80 or 30-70 my way to make things worth doing?

[Johny Walker]

how many tons are ther,could you not sell the whole lot to timber/firewood merchant in the lenth,? less work more pay ,

[likeitorlumpit]

just offer him £20 per tonne roadside- then you do the work as efficiently as possible and make as much as you can

Don't touch this one with his suggested terms

Believe me farmers arn't as silly as you think

[Billy]

not loads, around twenty possibly a bit more. if i tried to broker that deal i could see the middle man getting cut out . Ideally I want to try and negotiate to process and sell myself effectivley as it will pay more, I'm just tyring to use you guys to figure out what would be a reaosnable proposition as i've only sold my own firewood before so this is quite new.

[chestnut]

sounds like a weird deal to me - and we deal in almost solely chestnut

 

you either buy it at cord at volume at a set rate (be it seasoned or not) - or buy it by weight - at a set rate per ton

 

no way should you agree to take it - process it - then split the divvy (unless you can't afford to buy the wood in the first place) - or you have been trying to do a deal with my dad

 

just because chestnut has been cut a while - don't mean it will be seasoned properly, to burn well enough for joe public (they need to have a bit of a clue about wood that they burn - and most don't unfortunately)

 

chestnut has a decent value - outside of firewood - so you might want to speculate that way - if you can use a hammer and wedges to split it into post 'n rail etc

 

i would not dismiss doing a deal with the guy - but you need to have a good look at the timber - and see if it would be better sold as something other than logs

 

for regular posts - either split or in the round - you want about 7 ft length (although 5ft 6 to 6 ft will be fine)

 

for rails - the better money comes from them about 8ft - 10 ft long - clean split

 

if all the wood has been cut up short - and stacked - it ain't going to be much good and will be a buggar to split if it's been down for a few years - so i doubt you could even get palings or hand cut boards or shingles out of them

 

so with all that to consider - i would say that the bloke is trying to take the mick - and i would leave it be - unless you are really desperate for wood

 

by the way - we don't process as many logs as the majority of guys on here - but we don't need a splitter or any other fancy machines to process our wood - we do it all by hand (and chainsaw) as chestnut splits like butter with the right splitting axe

[gensetsteve]

25% is cost of my wood 25% is fuel a depreciation of my toys leaving 50% but this also needs to cover my labour. I would say give 25-30% of turn over.

[dave fox]

just offer him £20 per tonne roadside- then you do the work as efficiently as possible and make as much as you can

Don't touch this one with his suggested terms

Believe me farmers arn't as silly as you think

damn right we aint!

[Billy]

sounds like a weird deal to me - and we deal in almost solely chestnut

 

you either buy it at cord at volume at a set rate (be it seasoned or not) - or buy it by weight - at a set rate per ton

 

no way should you agree to take it - process it - then split the divvy (unless you can't afford to buy the wood in the first place) - or you have been trying to do a deal with my dad

 

just because chestnut has been cut a while - don't mean it will be seasoned properly, to burn well enough for joe public (they need to have a bit of a clue about wood that they burn - and most don't unfortunately)

 

chestnut has a decent value - outside of firewood - so you might want to speculate that way - if you can use a hammer and wedges to split it into post 'n rail etc

 

i would not dismiss doing a deal with the guy - but you need to have a good look at the timber - and see if it would be better sold as something other than logs

 

for regular posts - either split or in the round - you want about 7 ft length (although 5ft 6 to 6 ft will be fine)

 

for rails - the better money comes from them about 8ft - 10 ft long - clean split

 

if all the wood has been cut up short - and stacked - it ain't going to be much good and will be a buggar to split if it's been down for a few years - so i doubt you could even get palings or hand cut boards or shingles out of them

 

so with all that to consider - i would say that the bloke is trying to take the mick - and i would leave it be - unless you are really desperate for wood

 

by the way - we don't process as many logs as the majority of guys on here - but we don't need a splitter or any other fancy machines to process our wood - we do it all by hand (and chainsaw) as chestnut splits like butter with the right splitting axe

 

Interesting post alot of it is in long lengths, up to about 20ft. I didn't really consider manufacturing fencing componnents from it, what sort of money do posts and rails go for compared to firewood, does the splitting of long lengths take much longer or require particular precision...is it difficult?:001_tongue:or just a case of it splits right or it splits wrong n becomes firewood?

This Threads deffinatley had the desired effect thought some pretty major negotion needs to be done before we go any further, and i have a few more possibilites for uses

[scbk]

Bare in mind that if he's gonna let you store and work the wood on site then that could be in your adavntage as you're not paying out on haulage and rent for a yard

 

(and also disposal of sawdust!)

[sandbach-sticks]

im no expert, but i work on giving 20% of what i think i can sell it at. Even paying 20% will not make you rich, and reckon with all the labour that leaves me on £10-£15 an hour depending if the wood goes to garden centers etc or i sell direct. I tried a 50-50 split with a farmer 2 years ago and I made nothing! Will not have chnged only get worse with increasing overheads chain oil etc etc.....