Have you ever bottled it?

[Johny Walker]

Yes but I've never had one snap at 10' so I don't expect it at 80'.

 

How many have had a branch fail????????

 

I just honestly feel our minds tell us to stop before we need to, I've ignored that and carried on and the more I have done it, better I feel I really understand whats truly safe and what isn't.

 

If this tree is as bad as is suggested, whats going to happen when its in full leaf and the wind blows???????

 

in years gone by we used what was called a floating rope(not sure what its called these days) which sat some what be low the main anchor ,so any limb failure would it catch you ,

[Mark Bolam]

Yes but I've never had one snap at 10' so I don't expect it at 80'.

 

How many have had a branch fail????????

 

I just honestly feel our minds tell us to stop before we need to, I've ignored that and carried on and the more I have done it, better I feel I really understand whats truly safe and what isn't.

 

If this tree is as bad as is suggested, whats going to happen when its in full leaf and the wind blows???????

 

It will fail Dave, like trees do all the time.

 

Spooks me more when they fail with no wind.

 

I have only ever had a decent sized branch fail once, and it had an old wound on the underside I hadn't seen. I took an almighty swing into the trunk and the bloke I was climbing for was annoyed because it ruined the shape of the reduction!

 

TBH I think MOST things are climbable going slowly and carefully, but your gut feeling is what keeps you alive. Rigging off these trees is a different matter....

[skyhuck]

It will fail Dave, like trees do all the time.

 

Spooks me more when they fail with no wind.

 

I have only ever had a decent sized branch fail once, and it had an old wound on the underside I hadn't seen. I took an almighty swing into the trunk and the bloke I was climbing for was annoyed because it ruined the shape of the reduction!

 

TBH I think MOST things are climbable going slowly and carefully, but your gut feeling is what keeps you alive. Rigging off these trees is a different matter....

 

Totally agree!!!!

 

I almost never rig.

[Matt Butler]

That means nothing unless you can show something you didn't bottle

 

he has never bottled anything, in fact i fully expect that he would be happy to free climb to the top of that tree in ur pic, he's off his head:001_smile:

[skyhuck]

in years gone by we used what was called a floating rope(not sure what its called these days) which sat some what be low the main anchor ,so any limb failure would it catch you ,

 

Thats a really good system, Johny and would work well on this tree, IMO.

[Stephen Blair]

he has never bottled anything, in fact i fully expect that he would be happy to free climb to the top of that tree in ur pic, he's off his head:001_smile:

 

more picy picies, less talky talky:001_rolleyes:

[Mesterh]

Yes but I've never had one snap at 10' so I don't expect it at 80'.

 

How many have had a branch fail????????

 

I just honestly feel our minds tell us to stop before we need to, I've ignored that and carried on and the more I have done it, better I feel I really understand whats truly safe and what isn't.

 

If this tree is as bad as is suggested, whats going to happen when its in full leaf and the wind blows???????

 

Ok, right then.

 

You would happily walk along a kerb knowing that you wont fall off and the ground wont collapse. Would you do the same at the edge of the grand canyon?

 

 

Its not always what will happen (well what we 'think' will happen) but what could happen.

 

The tree could fall over tomorrow with no wind and no leaves. It does happen, prob more often than we realise.

 

I do understand about what you say about mind over matter. And I do think that trees rarely fail.

[skyhuck]

he has never bottled anything, in fact i fully expect that he would be happy to free climb to the top of that tree in ur pic, he's off his head:001_smile:

 

You know what they say, "there are old climbers and there are bold climbers, but there are no old, bold climbers".

 

But IMO, there are a few exceptions

[Mark Bolam]

he has never bottled anything, in fact i fully expect that he would be happy to free climb to the top of that tree in ur pic, he's off his head:001_smile:

 

Ignorance is bliss.

[Matt Butler]

Ignorance is bliss.

 

what do u mean ignorance? this is a third gereration surgeon