Men or machines.

[Stephen Blair]

the diference with being around a farm is 15 lads would turn up, work like a dog for 14 hours and get handed a £10 and got some lunch and a drink out a flask and everyone thought is was great. If any one wants to come and work for me and bring all their rugby mates i will happily pay them in biscuits and 2 cans of beer while i make about 10 grand in 1 day:sneaky2:

[combined tree services]

the diference with being around a farm is 15 lads would turn up, work like a dog for 14 hours and get handed a £10 and got some lunch and a drink out a flask and everyone thought is was great. If any one wants to come and work for me and bring all their rugby mates i will happily pay them in biscuits and 2 cans of beer while i make about 10 grand in 1 day:sneaky2:

 

however if you base both examples in todays values then a team of ten men turn up to work and earn you 10k a week in exchange for a fair wage then everyone is happy , its a bit like pricing work , we would all get pretty peved if everyone decided to use " pikies" and not you because they are cheeper than you , do the same sort of job and often offer more than just tree surgery .

 

On the other hand i do see what you mean i got fed up using a small chiper and not being abe to carry enough chip so i bought a mog . So how do you reach a happy medium ???

[Dave Martin]

As a whole we put ourselves before others- the idea of 'each man for himself' has really come into fruition, and so we buy a machine instead of paying wages, as then the money stays in our pockets, but to what effect- socail misery and inbalance- the haves and the hav-nots, the break up of community

 

After decimating the High Street of all the small retailers that used to employ the unskilled I see that Tescos now have banks of hand held scanners for customers to total their own shopping so that they will be able to reduce their workforce and retain even more profit. Where will the money come from for the unemployed masses to spend on the services and wares of the wealthy minority?

[Stephen Blair]

it always amazes me when folk feel others owe them something, like a job. Find your own work, be your own person, make your own destiny and never rely on others. Thats what i have done. If all the shops closed down tomorrow i would plant some seeds and go fishing. I love Tescos, i think its great, everything under one roof, rather than walking about in the rain from one little shop to another paying crazy prices to grumpy shop owners, in Tescos they all have to smile and all say yes sir no problem. Technology does take some peoples jobs, i have always done unskilled work but always lots of it, and worked harder and more productive than others around me. blame blame blame Pah!!!

[Mesterh]

i have always done unskilled work but always lots of it, and worked harder and more productive than others around me. blame blame blame Pah!!!

 

From seeing your posts and vids/pics of work I dont doubt it for a minute.

 

But, we all do that dont we?

 

We all have done the crappyiest jobs and worked the hardest and did the best work and worked for a pittance and we didnt have it easy and it was hard graft not luck that got us here and everyone else moans.......

[skyhuck]

it always amazes me when folk feel others owe them something, like a job. Find your own work, be your own person, make your own destiny and never rely on others. Thats what i have done. If all the shops closed down tomorrow i would plant some seeds and go fishing. I love Tescos, i think its great, everything under one roof, rather than walking about in the rain from one little shop to another paying crazy prices to grumpy shop owners, in Tescos they all have to smile and all say yes sir no problem. Technology does take some peoples jobs, i have always done unskilled work but always lots of it, and worked harder and more productive than others around me. blame blame blame Pah!!!

 

:congrats:

 

If people don't like Tesco they don't need to go.

 

Tesco are not holding a gun to anyones head and making them go in or use the automated tills.

 

Things only succeed because people chose to use them.

[Dave Martin]

it always amazes me when folk feel others owe them something, like a job. Find your own work, be your own person, make your own destiny and never rely on others. Thats what i have done. If all the shops closed down tomorrow i would plant some seeds and go fishing. I love Tescos, i think its great, everything under one roof, rather than walking about in the rain from one little shop to another paying crazy prices to grumpy shop owners, in Tescos they all have to smile and all say yes sir no problem. Technology does take some peoples jobs, i have always done unskilled work but always lots of it, and worked harder and more productive than others around me. blame blame blame Pah!!!

 

Merely playing devils advocate Steve. I have been self employed since I was twenty many many years ago. But after running a retail business during mining strikes and recessions I do understand that for me to be rich others need to have money to give to me and I am a firm believer that there are Chiefs and Indians and if we were all Chiefs it just would not work.

[skyhuck]

From seeing your posts and vids/pics of work I dont doubt it for a minute.

 

But, we all do that dont we?

 

We all have done the crappyiest jobs and worked the hardest and did the best work and worked for a pittance and we didnt have it easy and it was hard graft not luck that got us here and everyone else moans.......

 

That gets you no where.

[Johny Walker]

:congrats:

 

If people don't like Tesco they don't need to go.

 

Tesco are not holding a gun to anyones head and making them go in or use the automated tills.

 

Things only succeed because people chose to use them.

 

or the could use waiterose

[Mesterh]

That gets you no where.

 

I dunno everyone seems to mention it at one point or other in their life/career.