Shizll Jonko Cone Wedge

[peds]

There was a brief mention of this thing in a thread a while ago, but no discussion. I was wondering if anyone had any strong opinions either way to share on it.

 

 

"No more dragging and hitting with heavy hammers!

Jonko cone wedge especially designed to use in a tree and to fell small to medium size trees with a slight overhang. Due to one year of field testing different prototypes and different threads we managed to design a good functioning cone wedge. Jonko is the result and can therefore be used in a broad range of applications."

 

Seems like it'd be handy for knocking the tops of spruce and cypress that aren't quite leany enough to use a rope and a groundie... or for overcoming a little bit of a breeze coming from the wrong direction, but not much...

 

I think there's a narrow band between getting a rope out and not needing one in which this would be a useful tool. But is that band too narrow for this to be worthwhile? 

 

(It's reduced from 65 to 50euro at the moment, I'm just debating whether or not to drop it in the basket!)

Edited yesterday at 06:43 by peds

[Dan Maynard]

I've done the sketch trying to throw a rope up into a top while holding it up with one hand while it sits back on the saw. Nowadays if I'm not super confident about the forward motion I just put the rope in before I start cutting, so much easier and less stressful.

 

Anything I can see being done with that little cone would make me nervous enough to have a rope, it's too late when either the cone won't move it or the hinge snaps.

 

I guess it depends what sort of trees you work on? 

[Mark Bolam]

It’s not exactly a new concept.

 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

Lots of stuff appears, looks smart, then disappears.

 

Only time will tell.

[Joe Newton]

If you can't push it over either get a rope in or climb higher. Rattle wedges for climbers are just fleecing money from the easily influenced.

 

When was the last time you knocked a top over with axe and wedge?

[peds]

I'm imagining it purely for spruce and conny tops. Lots of those for me to do after Eowyn, people are scared!

 

So that one that you had to get the rope up into after making your cuts... I wonder if that little cone could have fixed the problem instead of rope juggling. I'm sure we've all had a top or two like that, you think it'll go on it's own but then the wind shifts slightly or whatever... it might just be a good backup plan to have available. If you are doing a dozen tops, say, it might make the difference between tugging 6 of them with a rope instead of 9... depending on lean and wind. Djaknow?

 

But I've never seen anyone on here raving about them, so maybe they are a dud, and I'll spend that 50 euro on chicken necks and hashish instead. 

[Mick Dempsey]

1 minute ago, peds said:

I'm imagining it purely for spruce and conny tops. Lots of those for me to do after Eowyn, people are scared!

 

So that one that you had to get the rope up into after making your cuts... I wonder if that little cone could have fixed the problem instead of rope juggling. I'm sure we've all had a top or two like that, you think it'll go on it's own but then the wind shifts slightly or whatever... it might just be a good backup plan to have available. If you are doing a dozen tops, say, it might make the difference between tugging 6 of them with a rope instead of 9... depending on lean and wind. Djaknow?

 

But I've never seen anyone on here raving about them, so maybe they are a dud, and I'll spend that 50 euro on chicken necks and hashish instead. 

Get the hash, I miss that, once the crazy strong skunk appeared, I had to stop.

[AHPP]

Nice idea but no need for it. It’s like changing gears on a push bike. If you think you need to change down, you need to change down two. If you think you need a wedge (or this screw thing) for a top, you need a rope in it. Even stout throwline will do for pulling the sort of tops you’re talking about. Easy to take up in a bumbag.

 

Something we're prone to as climbers is clever tricks and getting away with things. I’m trying to get away from being so marginal. It almost always takes almost no effort to stack the deck in your favour. Deal yourself pocket kings every time and enjoy life being easy. 

[peds]

1 hour ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Get the hash, I miss that, once the crazy strong skunk appeared, I had to stop.

 

Will do skip, thanks for the professional advice 👍 

[Rich Rule]

One of my friends has one.  He was going though some kit boxes last week and it was in the bottom.  I asked if it was any good?

 

He had it a few years but yet it looked brand new.

 

There is a reason for that.