Greater payload

[tim361]

The company I use to work for did a lot of highway contracts and would lease vans for the busy periods when we had more temp staff on. The merc was a fantastic van. Loads of power and would seat 7 if my memory is correct. Its big down fall was the legal weight it could carry. I argued at great lengths with my manager that filling the van with chip put it massively over weight, he would always say don’t be stupid it’s all fine. It’s was a double cab with a 10ft tipping body and because it was a lease vehicle just had a plywood chip box put in while we had it. On one of our jobs the nearest place to tip off was paid site with a weigh bridge. Went in weighed in tipped off and weighed out. The van empty with just me driving weighed 3.2t when I went in loaded with chip was just under 7t. Van got sent back shortly after.

[Ty Korrigan]

I'm due to replace my 2007 Iveco crew cab and have quotes for new trucks 3.5t Fuso Canter at €38k, 6t €53k (narrow cab) 7.5t €57k (wide cab) plus sides etc.

I'm happy to buy new, it will likely be my last truck anyway.

Thing is, I will be employing in the future to either I arrange to put the young spotty through his HGV or stick to a 3.5t and running overweight.

I find it a bit mad that even larger Arb outfits expect their employees to risk their licence by driving over loaded trucks.

What does worry me is the thought of potentially (very certain France) being sued in a civil case because the driver I hit with my overloaded truck suffers an injury 🤕 🩸 🩸 🩸 

 

 

[Blah]

Our solution to this is running a 4x4 and a tipper ifor. That carries 2.5ton of chip or wood legally.

[Mark Bolam]

That’s what we do on bigger jobs to be fair, but a two vehicle setup isn’t always ideal.

[aspenarb]

We have a weighbridge a few hundred yards from here and I did check out this payload malarkey a while back. A Transit with a lightweight tipper body, oddsnsods that always stay with it like rakes.shovels etc plus saws/fuel, a tank of diesel and driver in it leaves you with a legal 750kg of payload.

 

Bob

[Mark Bolam]

That’s what I found Bob.

2850 on the bridge empty.

 

That’s with normal tools and 2 in the cab + dog.

[Blah]

1 hour ago, Mark Bolam said:

That’s what we do on bigger jobs to be fair, but a two vehicle setup isn’t always ideal.

We almost always turn up with three anyway as we're all coming from different directions, dogs, tools and places to be after. It suits us; one tows the tipper trailer, one tows the chipper and one tows the Sherpa.

[aspenarb]

20 hours ago, Ty Korrigan said:

I'm due to replace my 2007 Iveco crew cab and have quotes for new trucks 3.5t Fuso Canter at €38k, 6t €53k (narrow cab) 7.5t €57k (wide cab) plus sides etc.

I'm happy to buy new, it will likely be my last truck anyway.

Thing is, I will be employing in the future to either I arrange to put the young spotty through his HGV or stick to a 3.5t and running overweight.

I find it a bit mad that even larger Arb outfits expect their employees to risk their licence by driving over loaded trucks.

What does worry me is the thought of potentially (very certain France) being sued in a civil case because the driver I hit with my overloaded truck suffers an injury 🤕 🩸 🩸 🩸 

 

 

Our old school 7.5 tonner can carry just over 4 tons legally and with the right drivers license is allowed a further 3.5 tons behind it, if you can be arsed to do the paperwork it’s worthwhile. 
 

Bob

 

[Mick Dempsey]

As it goes my new transit 3.5t seems to take a great load of chip without looking too bad, must be the new springs or something.

I thought about going the 7.5 tonne route but it wasn’t worth it for me. 

For me a single cab twin wheel 3.5 tonner, another truck like a pick up or even a smaller one like a kangoo or similar to tow the chipper and carry the tools is a real sweet spot for making money. 
 

If you’re going to ram the 3.5 with chip stay off the motorways, and don’t fill the dash/windscreen area with rubbish that the rozzers can see.  

 And another thing, clean off any overspill of chip that’s on the cab roof or whatever so you’re not a snowstorm of chip as you go down the road.  
If you’re going to get nicked for overloading fair enough. 
Just don’t hand it to them on a plate by making yourself an obvious tug. 

Edited Sunday at 16:10 by Mick Dempsey

[AHPP]

3.5t car transporter beavertail that can carry a loader/towed chipper/ tracked chipper/spare car/big wood.

3.5t tipper trailer for chip and wood mainly but whatever else when convenient too.

 

That's what I keep coming back to as the holy grail (for big jobs with small kit anyway). Fight me, Mick.