Training contracts - has anyone ever tried recouping costs from training a staff member that has left?

[tree-fancier123]

13 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

OK.

 

Anyone who thinks NPTC and LANTRA qualifications have sufficient integrity, step forward.

me - I'm a gardener who does a bit of tree work.

They failed me first time on CS39 - cutting too close to my legs the main reason.

I suspect poverty is your main problem - and why you are lashing out at anything to do with authority

[AHPP]

No and no. Comfortably off and doing the exact opposite of lashing out. I've considered my position on these things pretty carefully. If I say it, it's because I really mean it.

[Mick Dempsey]

8 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Go on. Such as?

You understood very well what I meant.

 

[AHPP]

I'm being open minded, Mick. Humour me.

[openspaceman]

9 hours ago, 5thelement said:

I can’t understand why an experienced climber can’t mentor a climber/cutter on a slow day, you are only teaching the very basic principles, the assessment schedules are all on line, if you haven’t got the ability/knowledge to do this then you need to go on a refresher yourself, or question why you are even in this  industry if your skill/knowledge level is so low.

I agree but at the end you still need to pay for the assessment .

 

I think chainsaw use and lift truck driving are the only assessments that are required by law to be done by an independent assessor, to the standard that only NPTC can award in the case of chainsaws. Although I have been out of it for 20 years now so am not sure how the arrangement with LANTRA stands.

 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

@AHPP
Ok, imagine something absolutely ideal and difficult to improve upon like say ‘Knowing me knowing you with Alan Partridge’ or ‘Father Ted’ at one end of the spectrum, then at the other end there is ‘Miranda’ or ‘Mrs Brown’s boys’

 

Then there’s something in between like ‘Goodnight Sweetheart’ or ‘The Brittas empire’ ok, not top draw, but worth a watch.

 

Now maybe those qualifications are like those, could be improved upon, flawed perhaps, but better than ‘Noel’s house party’ and still worth watching.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mick Dempsey

[peds]

Brittas Empire... now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Would it be worth a rewatch, all these decades later?

 

For the record, I think I'm LANTRA qualified for stumpgrinder. I don't know how to use one.

I'm also LANTRA woodchipper, and I do know how to use one. So, yes, it's just like the Brittas Empire. 

[AHPP]

Right. Such as if these qualifications were a moderately useful yardstick for establishing baseline competence? But they're not. Total jokers pass them, routinely, not as exceptions. Everyone you speak to has a story of the guy that had the ticket but literally couldn't get off the ground. 

 

I do get what you're saying, that it's not a binary thing. Think of it like a balance-of-probabilities standard of proof though. They don't meet the standard. Then it is binary.

 

Industry trust in them is well below the 50% it would have to be for them to be even in the running. Don't make me start a poll...

 

Edited 2 hours ago by AHPP

[AHPP]

Yeah. More serious than I can be arsed with either if I'm honest, Mick. We've no doubt had the discussion on here before, once or fifty times.