Jokes???

[Khriss]

@Hairyonyourchest  its the conundrum. We enjoyed 200 yrs of profligate use of minerals but we now being Neo Colonialists with Africa / China! K

[Haironyourchest]

4 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

It’s a bit like picking up your dog shit, start by picking up your own dog shit, provide bins and bags so that others have less of an excuse to not pick up theirs. Fine and ostracize those who don’t.

Do all that and they’ll be a lot less on the streets.

 

Just saying that Chinese bloke doesn’t pick up his dog’s shit so I won’t is a lazy argument.

I understand your moral position, but we're not talking about dog shit. We're talking about the extinction clock ticking for ALL of us. And we only have 10 years left, or maybe it's already too late. So unless we stop the East and Africa in their tracks WE ARE ALL DOOMED. Some of us might be able to comfort ourselves as we figuratively burn to death that we 'did the right thing' but how many, really, can take comfort in knowing that, as their children and grandchildren, well...you know. How are they going to feel about the Chinese and Indians, with their cars in 10 years time?

 

[Mick Dempsey]

4 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

I understand your moral position, but we're not talking about dog shit. We're talking about the extinction clock ticking for ALL of us. And we only have 10 years left, or maybe it's already too late. So unless we stop the East and Africa in their tracks WE ARE ALL DOOMED. Some of us might be able to comfort ourselves as we figuratively burn to death that we 'did the right thing' but how many, really, can take comfort in knowing that, as their children and grandchildren, well...you know. How are they going to feel about the Chinese and Indians, with their cars in 10 years time?

 

Your projection of events assumes a lot, ie. Everything in the world remains the same except for the growth of electric vehicles in the West.

 If the West stopped using petrol/diesel, then it wouldn’t be worth the cost of extraction, China and Japan and Korea would be making electric vehicles for the lucrative western market.

I dunno, but as with the dog shit analogy, we (the affluent west) do it first, then they will follow....I hope.

 

[Gray git]

Let's get this thread back on track

[Gray git]

[Haironyourchest]

(Should be moving to the Climate Change thread but I think the whole thing is a joke anyway, so why not continue playing Devil's Advocate for a bit?)

 

...They would be building EVs for us, using fossil fuel. We're just offshoring our emissions. The fundamental fact is fossil fuel underpins prosperity, as we understand the term. There is no other known energy source that comes close in terms of effort vs return. And there's lots of fossil fuel left. And they want to eat meat as well.

[Mark Bolam]

The bastards.

They’ll be cutting their forests down next, like we did.

[Khriss]

But remember - most of the damage - WE did in the 20th Century is irreversible ( Nuclear bomb testing / WW2 / oil exploration - use ) it is up to US to come up with counter measures , reforestation , bio re-engineering ( better tree types ?? ) marine havens , population control in certain areas ( Romford ) responsible use of energy etc , its do-able fellas . Planet does not NEED us , but it will be a stain on the Human species to leave a shit hole K

[Haironyourchest]

34 minutes ago, Khriss said:

But remember - most of the damage - WE did in the 20th Century is irreversible ( Nuclear bomb testing / WW2 / oil exploration - use ) it is up to US to come up with counter measures , reforestation , bio re-engineering ( better tree types ?? ) marine havens , population control in certain areas ( Romford ) responsible use of energy etc , its do-able fellas . Planet does not NEED us , but it will be a stain on the Human species to leave a shit hole K

It's not reversible if the East keeps using fossil fuel. To have a 50/50 chance of avoiding mass extinction, the WHOLE WORLD has to go zero emissions before 2030. After that it will be too late. Do do dispute this, Khriss? It's what 97% of climate scientists are saying.

[Guest Gimlet]

2 hours ago, Khriss said:

But remember - most of the damage - WE did in the 20th Century is irreversible ( Nuclear bomb testing / WW2 / oil exploration - use ) it is up to US to come up with counter measures , reforestation , bio re-engineering ( better tree types ?? ) marine havens , population control (every fuckingwhere) responsible use of energy etc , its do-able fellas . Planet does not NEED us , but it will be a stain on the Human species to leave a shit hole K

Fixed it for you.