Forces leaver

[Joelg123]

Evening all,

 

I am newly qualified with all my tickets including aerial rigging and emergency treework operations.

 

In everyone’s expert opinion, am I better off doing subcontract work or trying to get a job at a local firm to build my experience?

 

I understand everyone will add their own thoughts but I’m happy to listen to anyone who’s willing to share some knowledge.

 

cheers lads 

[Joe Newton]

Thank you for your service.

 

If you're planning on going self employed, you'll be going in as a ground worker. No experience = no value.

 

If you're considering PAYE, you'll be seen as more attractive as a groundy with the potential to progress without any investment on behalf of the employer.

 

Nobody has time to train a subby on site, but they would do for an employee. Commitment goes two ways. 

[Mick Dempsey]

Get a job at a local firm to build experience. 

[JBH]

Qualified but no experience?

 

Go and work at a company

 

It usually takes 5 years for a climber to possibly be worth hiring as a subcontract climber and capable of doing most things in tree work (possibly)

 

You might disagree now, you'll agree in five years though

 

I thought you needed a years experience minimum between cs39 and cs41?

 

NPTC/LANTRA/ABA really needs an hours based sign off system like IRATA

 

You'll be an asset to a company immediately because you fufil the arial rescue requirement

 

Welcome and Good luck

 

[Joe Newton]

49 minutes ago, JBH said:

Qualified but no experience?

 

Go and work at a company

 

It usually takes 5 years for a climber to possibly be worth hiring as a subcontract climber and capable of doing most things in tree work (possibly)

 

You might disagree now, you'll agree in five years though

Yup, but expect to be on low wages. 

 

If you're hoping to make a decent rate (or decent money at all) this isn't the best industry to be jumping into.

 

 can be fun though. 

49 minutes ago, JBH said:

I thought you needed a years experience minimum between cs39 and cs41?

Nope, unfortunately not. NPTC can make more money this way.

49 minutes ago, JBH said:

NPTC/LANTRA/ABA really needs an hours based sign off system like IRATA

Completely agree, it won't happen though. 

[Joelg123]

And what would one class as a decent rate employed or self? 
 

Thankyou for the above responses I understand it’s a tough industry to start in with 0 practical experience  

[Will C]

£200 a day for a decent climber with a min of 2-3 urs experience round here. You are 1 step ahead in my opinion - 99% of you ex forces guys know how to work and have a level of drive to you. Good luck. 
add your area, some one local to you may see and give you a chance. 

3 minutes ago, Joelg123 said:

And what would one class as a decent rate employed or self? 
 

Thankyou for the above responses I understand it’s a tough industry to start in with 0 practical experience  

 

[topchippyles]

4 minutes ago, Joelg123 said:

And what would one class as a decent rate employed or self? 
 

Thankyou for the above responses I understand it’s a tough industry to start in with 0 practical experience  

On the books £12 subbing maybe £15

[topchippyles]

Just now, topchippyles said:

On the books £12 subbing maybe £15

Don't expect to get rich working for other people 

[skc101fc]

After getting all the kit for all situations,  maintenance,  repairs, f!#k ups, transport and insurances, you won't initially be getting rich working for yourself either.